Be sure to review the incubator "graduation" documentation. There's a set of steps that need to be followed.
Patrick On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Henry Saputra <[email protected]> wrote: > We could send it now. Sorry I was bit pre-occupied in the last week. > > Any PPMC could start the official VOTE thread to make it happen. > > If no one beats me, I will send it tomorrow. > > - Henry > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Sreevatsan Raman <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thanks Henry for taking this initiative. Do we need to do anything before >> we send the graduation vote? When can we send this? >> >> Thanks, >> Sree >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Henry Saputra <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Thanks for the insights, Tom. >> > >> > If no more comments and concerns, I will send graduation VOTE in next >> > couple days. >> > >> > - Henry >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Tom White <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Henry Saputra <[email protected] >> > >> > > wrote: >> > > > Hi Tom, >> > > > >> > > > Ah sorry, it was me who misread your email. Somehow my mind went to >> > > > "Crunch" as in Apache Crunch. >> > > > >> > > > Super Mea culpa from my side. >> > > >> > > No worries! >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Yes, I know about Clutch =P >> > > >> > > I thought you would do :) >> > > >> > > > >> > > > There is one new committer and PPMC added since incubation, which is >> > me. >> > > > And it is reflected in the reports. >> > > >> > > That's good to know. As I said, I think Twill as a project has >> > > demonstrated it operates well at Apache and is ready to graduate. >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Tom >> > > >> > > > Need to update the Twill incubator status page to reflect it. >> > > > >> > > > - Henry >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 7:08 AM, Tom White <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Hi Henry, >> > > >> >> > > >> Clutch is a reporting tool that gives a useful summary of incubator >> > > >> metrics for projects in the incubator, including Twill. >> > > >> >> > > >> http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html >> > > >> >> > > >> For example column K is for the number of committers added during >> > > >> incubation, which is what prompted my original question. >> > > >> >> > > >> Cheers, >> > > >> Tom >> > > >> >> > > >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Henry Saputra < >> > [email protected]> >> > > >> wrote: >> > > >> > HI Tom, >> > > >> > >> > > >> > I think you mixed up between Twill and Clutch? >> > > >> > >> > > >> > As for Twill, we are seeing potential new committers but bit >> missing >> > > on >> > > >> the >> > > >> > stickiness to >> > > >> > >> > > >> > I am sure some projects outside use Twill already. I think >> > graduation >> > > is >> > > >> > just another stepping stone for project to grow. >> > > >> > Hoping in the near future more new committers will be coming to >> > > >> contribute. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > - Henry >> > > >> > >> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:20 AM, Tom White <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> It is indeed a small podling, but I think Twill has demonstrated >> it >> > > is >> > > >> >> ready to graduate. >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> One thing I noticed from the Clutch report was that no new >> > committers >> > > >> >> have been added since the start of graduation [1]. Is this >> because >> > of >> > > >> >> a lack of suitable candidates? >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> Tom >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Henry Saputra < >> > > [email protected]> >> > > >> >> wrote: >> > > >> >> > Thanks Terence. >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > Would love to hear more thoughts about the graduation proposal. >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > Other Mentors (other than Patrick whom have been contributed >> this >> > > >> >> > already), >> > > >> >> > we rarely ask for help but this is definitely one of time we >> need >> > > your >> > > >> >> > opinions. >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > - Henry >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Terence Yim <[email protected] >> > >> > > >> wrote: >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Hi Henry, >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Thanks for initiating the discussion about graduation. >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> About the subscribers of the dev@list, it is currently have >> 60 >> > > >> >> >> subscribers, >> > > >> >> >> comparing to 27 about a year ago (01/31/16 vs 01/22/15). >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Terence >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Henry Saputra >> > > >> >> >> <[email protected]> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> wrote: >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > HI Patrick, >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > Sorry for the late reply, was trying the time to gather the >> > > >> >> >> > information. >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > If you look at the email archive [1] you can see the dev@ >> > list >> > > >> >> >> > contains >> > > >> >> >> > good amount of emails. >> > > >> >> >> > This include messages from Github Pull Requests mirror and >> > JIRA >> > > >> >> >> > discussions. >> > > >> >> >> > The new features development and design had always been made >> > to >> > > >> >> >> > public >> > > >> >> >> > for >> > > >> >> >> > discussions. >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > I am not admin for dev@ list so I do not have numbers about >> > how >> > > >> many >> > > >> >> >> > increase of subscriber. >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > And the community has released about 7 good releases [2] >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > From start of incubation it added only 1 new PPMCs member >> but >> > > it is >> > > >> >> >> > not >> > > >> >> >> > because lack of trying. >> > > >> >> >> > The community has presented in Apache Con 2014 [3] and add >> > > >> >> >> > information >> > > >> >> >> > to >> > > >> >> >> > public sites [4] [5]. >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > More importantly, the mentors had not needed to add any >> advice >> > > >> other >> > > >> >> >> > than >> > > >> >> >> > validate the report. >> > > >> >> >> > The releases made were one of the easiest ones to vote for. >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > Putting my IPMC hat on, I do not see any reason for Twill to >> > be >> > > in >> > > >> >> >> > incubator anymore. >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks, >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > - Henry >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > [1] >> > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-twill-dev/ >> > > >> >> >> > [2] https://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/twill/ >> > > >> >> >> > [3] >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> http://apacheconnorthamerica2014.sched.org/event/875342b2235e30ec53057352ac7df111 >> > > >> >> >> > [4] >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2609460/hadoop/meet-apache-twill--the-newest-member-of-club-hadoop.html >> > > >> >> >> > [5] >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> https://jaxenter.com/developing-distributed-applications-with-apache-twill-107728.html >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Patrick Hunt < >> > [email protected] >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > wrote: >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > > Hi Henry, thanks for sending this out. Strictly looking at >> > the >> > > >> >> >> > > graduation requirements on the incubator wikis I think >> > you're >> > > in >> > > >> >> >> > > pretty good shape. I agree the community is small, but >> that >> > > might >> > > >> >> >> > > just >> > > >> >> >> > > be the way the project is. More the question is is it an >> > open >> > > >> >> >> > > community that understands the Apache Way and is ready for >> > tlp >> > > >> >> >> > > status. >> > > >> >> >> > > Can you provide some quantitative insight into progress? >> > E.g. >> > > >> >> >> > > number >> > > >> >> >> > > of pmc added, committers, etc... diversity of the >> community. >> > > >> Growth >> > > >> >> >> > > of >> > > >> >> >> > > the mailing lists. Some hard numbers that could provide >> > > concrete >> > > >> >> >> > > insight and help with the evaluation. >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > I was recently involved in a discussion on the incubator >> > list >> > > >> >> >> > > around >> > > >> >> >> > > Sentry graduation. During that discussion someone >> mentioned >> > > the >> > > >> >> >> > > following document which it seems some folks are using to >> > > >> evaluate >> > > >> >> >> > > graduation readiness. It's not a requirement of >> graduation, >> > > but >> > > >> how >> > > >> >> >> > > do >> > > >> >> >> > > you feel the project stacks up when evaluated against it? >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > Regards, >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > Patrick >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Henry Saputra >> > > >> >> >> > > <[email protected]> >> > > >> >> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> >> >> > > > HI All, >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > I would like to bring up graduation of Apache Twill as >> top >> > > >> level >> > > >> >> >> > project. >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > The community has released several successful releases >> and >> > > have >> > > >> >> >> > expanded >> > > >> >> >> > > > the PPMC to show openness, and also have done all >> > > discussions >> > > >> and >> > > >> >> >> > > > development in the open following the Apache way. >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > The podling is indeed small, and so far has not attract >> > much >> > > >> >> >> > > contributions >> > > >> >> >> > > > from outside world. >> > > >> >> >> > > > I think it is bc most development apps for YARN are done >> > > mostly >> > > >> >> >> > > > by >> > > >> >> >> > > > framework developers which sometimes don't mind to spend >> > > boiler >> > > >> >> >> > > > plate >> > > >> >> >> > in >> > > >> >> >> > > > exchange for closer control to the lower APIs. >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > However, I believe Twill community has nothing left to >> > > learn by >> > > >> >> >> > > > staying >> > > >> >> >> > > in >> > > >> >> >> > > > the incubator. >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > Any thoughts and comments are welcomed. >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > - Henry >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >>
