Hello,

On Thu,  7 Apr 2005 08:37:27 -0700, "Louis Suarez-Potts"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi all,
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >> * Kay is working, I think, on the style guide. It's pretty
> >> important, as I would like to create templates for project leads to
> >> use. These would specify color, CSS, useful javascripts, etc. The
> >> basic philosophy is pragmatic but focused on making sure we comply
> >> with standards and use CSS.
> >> 
> >For who is this style guide targeted? Project page maintainers or as a
> >resource for the whole community in general? And can we do the style
> >guide if the design isn't completely finished yet? How do we make sure
> >the style guide is being used?
> 
> Targeted to project page members, mainly, though others in community,
> too. But mainly for former.  Can we do style now? Pretty much, yes, as
> we are set to use the same table colors and layout and so on. And the
> design will never be completely finished ;-) .  How do we make sure it
> is used? We don't, and it won't be.  What I do now is point new project
> leads to the style guide every time I create a project, and I am the one
> who mainly creates projects.
> 
Yeah I've noticed you're involved in a lot of places.

> >
> >It seems that we need a qualified web designer also with knowledge on
> >JavaScript to work on the guide. Everything has to be taken into
> >account.
> 
> Of course. Kay is pretty qualified in this area but is still not an
> expert. Surely there are on this list expert javascript people?
>  If not, we can leave that area as under development.  
> 
I'm not an expert either. I have never had to use JavaScript on webs
I've made, probably because of accessilibity reasons, but if I had to I
wouldn't be left with thumb in my mouth. There's always a little hacker
in me, you know.

You should hire some of the big shots like Peter-Paul Koch. Just
kidding. ;)

>  
> >
> >> * Update the download javascript page.... I'd like to randomize the
> >> selection of servers within a country and then offer that random
> >> server to users invisibly.  Kind of like the way the other guys do
> >> it :-)  We do  not have load balancing among our archipelago, so are
> >> at a disadvantage. But I get a lot of mail on webmasters (Jacqueline
> >> and I are the webmasters) from users panicked by choice.
> >> 
> >Why go for JavaScript, sounds more like some server-side scripting
> >task to me?
> 
> The website application we use, called "SourceCast," is of a piece and
> maintained by CollabNet. It is a proprietary application and our ability
> to modify its elements limited.  Having server-side scripting would be
> very much desired for many things but they are not ours to have, at
> least not right now.  
> 
I see...

> [snip]
> 
> >> * Support page. There is a small group working on updating the
> >> support page, led by Gerry, Diane, Jacqueline.  It's a pretty
> >> important page and will get even more important. It should list more
> >> or less what it lists now, but better ;-)
> >> 
> >Where is this updating process taking place? I'm curious.
> 
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> 
> [snip]
> 
> >> * Sponsors page. I created a draft of a sponsors page a while ago
> >> and would like to move ahead with it. It's here,
> >> <http://website.openoffice.org/tryouts/my/louis/sponsors.htm> and
> >> would be linked from About us, as well as Distribution projects... 
> >> What I would love is to see if we can improve it.
> >> 
> >Ok, one thing. Reduce the pixel size of all the buttons to, say, 2/3
> >of the current. Then make the Markt und Technik, O'Reilly, Sun and
> >Linux Enterprise logos at least six or seven times smaller in
> >filesize. Then add alternative texts to them.
> >
> Okay, I'll work on it later on and pass it by here again for review.
> Thanks.
> 
Those are some of the basic elements of web design: shrink the image
filesizes to as painfully small as possible. The Markt&Technik logo is
over 80 KB - the size of a medium-sized thumbnail gallery (when done
well).

This will hopefully be taken into account in the current design, but we
still have time for that. And murb has been doing wonderful job so far.

> >> * Sitemap. John McCreesh currently maintains the sitemap pretty much
> >> singlehandedly.  I'm sure he could do with help ;-) Also, I'd like
> >> to be able to add a feature to that page so that users could rate
> >> the consultant (if not cdrom distro), in eBay style.   Is this
> >> possible to do with our technology (ie, javascript)?
> >> 
> >Sounds like a full-time job.
> 
> There are many things like that, here. :-/
>
It would make a nice CV entry to take up a huge post in the �world's
largest open source project� but even I do have some kinds of limits.

> >
> >>>
> >>>That's about everything for now...
> >>>
> >>>Miikka Leskinen miles_fin
> >>>
> >> 
> >The first thing I planned to do was to go through the homepage code
> >and make changes that would be improvements according to my skills,
> >and send patch proposals. But currently I don't have access to the
> >latest code, and WinHTTrack doesn't seem to work on sc40. I did
> >download the whole sc40 by hand the day before yesterday to look at it
> >offline, but now it was updated again.
> 
> I can give you access to sc40, as well as website project.  Let me know
> directly.
> 
If you think that I should look at the code, then yes. But I only need
reading permissions, if it isn't already possible somehow. Mostly I'm
interested in make fixes according to murb's bug lists.

> >
> >>>ps. And no, I don't have a blog currently.
> >> 
> >> Yay. Neither do I, though I am pressed, daily, to have one.
> >> 
> >Everyone has a blog nowadays. It's like the online resource of you as
> >a person. Your URI. That's why it's always good to include an address
> >to your blog if you introduce yourself somewhere. I'm under the
> >pressure, too.
> >
> >It wasn't impossible to predict back in 2002 that, hey, that must be
> >the future of the Internet! I would have blogged that. ;)
> 
> I don't think it is the future. I think it is a fad. Pretty soon, those
> who can write will continue to write, those who cannot will be ignored,
> and then we'll be back to where we started from: columnists.  And that
> has been the case since the 18th century, at least. :-)
> 
The amount of readers is not a problem. You can babble on whatever you
want, it'll still add to the web of resources. You know, ants building
an anthill sort of thing. ;) And it's great that virtually everyone
today can plug themselves in through blogging. At least I can't think of
where blogging would disappear in the following few years, eventhough
there is the craze now. :)

> 
> best,
> Louis
> 

Regards,
Miikka Leskinen
miles_fin

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