All,
There are several things going on and the goal is to make it easier both for developers and endusers to get and work on OpenOffice.org.

* homepage redesign : homepage using Collabnet

* portal.openoffice.org: not CollabNet, using Drupal + outside servers

* users.services.openoffice.org: not collabnet, using outside servers

* overall infrastructure redesign: let's see

* wikis


+ overall infrastructure. The last one is global and there are meetings involving the stakeholders later on this month and early next. The idea there is to clarify which SCM (source code manager) we'll be using, and to resolve other things related to the website. You've seen, I am sure, the posts regarding "infrastructure requirements."

+ The homepage redesign is necessary but there seems to be some confusion. The wiki, http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ User_Pages_Requirements, was created by me for the *portal,* not the homepage; at the time, I wasn't thinking of "portal" as the term. Unfortunately, at least for the foreseeable future, we are limited to using CollabNet for the homepage, if not for the portal.

Portal was initially kicked off by Filip, whose company, Bluepoint proposed something similar off the OOo domain. I feel, along with Stefan, that we want something in the domain, else we jeopardize our brand. The compromise was "portal.openoffice.org," which we can use. We cannot replace the homepage right now as we are tied to Collabnet. However, portal.openoffice.org would not be.

+ The users.services.openoffice.org site is the evolution of the OOoForums, which Ed Buck used to manage. He still may but the the group would like now to situate it within the .services universe, and I agree. Most people think of the OOoForums site as being part of OOo, anyway. The actual technology underlying it is something I have not been tracking.

+ The wikis will continue to use mostly Sun severs and be Sun managed, though not all servers within the universe are Sun, of course.

*** In a nutshell, then, the goal is ultimately to have a coherent structure and infrastructure. We are clearly not there yet and are in transition. Because of contractual obligations we must stay with the collabnet infrastructure for a while, at least, but for enduser and developer domains where it makes sense can use alternative servers and infrastructures; that's where portal.openoffice.org comes in.

Does this clarify things? The immediate goal for this discussion is double:

* homepage redesign
* portal.openoffice.org

Homepage: collabnet
Portal: not Collab but Drupal.

If an IRC discussion will help, I'm free anytime, more or less.

best

louis


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