on 23/10/2007 21:41 Kay Schenk wrote:
Louis--

Thanks for the explanations. I have a feeling some of us, well, didn't understand this picture at all. And, see further comments below.

Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
All,
There are several things going on and the goal is to make it easier both for developers and endusers to get and work on OpenOffice.org.

* homepage redesign : homepage using Collabnet

* portal.openoffice.org: not CollabNet, using Drupal + outside servers

* users.services.openoffice.org: not collabnet, using outside servers

OK, I, for one would like more elaboration on what you see as the functional differences in these three pieces. And, where does the wiki come in? You've identified the pieces but not how they interact.

My opinion is that, well, there shouldn't be the necessity of what you're calling a "portal" AND a homepage. In other words,

old technology = home page
new technology = portal

maybe?

I'm having a bit of a problem with your further discussion of this below. Or to put it more simple, why couldn't the home page in essence, BE the portal? When I saw Filip's mockup, I thought immediately that's where we were going. If not, what functionality do you envision the portal having vs the home page?
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I agree with Kay (I think ;-) ). The addition of portal.openoffice.org seems to further complicate a website that is already too complicated with subdomains IMHO.

Many end users don't even know what a subdomain is. If it doesn't start with www they're stumped.

A question: why is the www.openoffice.org domain tied to collabnet, and what would it take to "untie" it? Is that even possible? ...ever?


I've been involved with the new users.services.openoffice.org site, and even this was a bit of a compromise, it being the only way we could get the software needed to run the forums on a Sun server, within *any* kind of OOo domain. By the way Ed Buck is not involved with this project and I would think it highly unlikely that he will be.

If possible at any point, even in the distant future, I would prefer to see the end user sites simplified to...
www.openoffice.org
www.openoffice.org/forums
www.openoffice.org/extensions
www.openoffice.org/wiki
...and leave the sub-domains to volunteers / developers / contributors (i.e. specific projects).

Whether this can or will ever happen I don't know, but IMHO new sites (subdomains) being spawned all the time because of a restrictive infrastructure doesn't project the "brand" very well :|


Even though it may be more difficult to do, I can't see why the "Get..." theme that has been proposed and commented on here can't be implemented on the homepage anyway. They could just be image links couldn't they?

BFN,
James
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