Hi Louis,

I would rather skip the contribution page, though, OR, and that is imho the biggest problem, make sure downloads start automatically. I think the contribution page is the biggest issue at the moment. Followed by the fact that we do not promote downloads that much, thus force people to think about how they need to proceed (euh... P2P, CDRom, aaah, download, <click>)

By contribution page I mean the page that comes up after one clicks on downloading OOo but before the downloading commences.

I know.



RESOLUTION: Open download by default and remove contribution page
(cost: none, just remove the javascript)

I guess I'm not persuaded by the resolution. But I do want automatic downloads, if it comes down to it.

Well, the resolution was kind of what can we do now to improve the situation. A one click download should be possible. I like the model of Firefox for this. Clear download button with an automatically generated default for OS and language, and below it, in smaller print "Alternative versions and means to get OpenOffice.org" (or something along these lines).

Costs: somebody needs to do the javascript needed for this. If we focus on only OS, this is very easy. With different languages it gets trickier. Why? Since not all languages are finishing their QA process at the same time, where do we want to refer to in case the latest version is not available in that language?

For practical reasons, I'd think going for OS selection only now, integrating language selection complicates much, and might even require a different release cycle for the OOo product.

In the meantime we can make the process already simpler by removing the javascript that makes the download box smaller (code that was introduced to give a fair choice between download, cd-roms and p2p).

The contribution page just after the download click is confusing imho since it requires yet another button to click... I would vote thus either for removing this page entirely, or ... while you are waiting for the download to commence, please consider contributing to OpenOffice.org...

Btw. can you be sure that most people are contributing money from the contributing page that is shown just after the download page?

I think the homepage (www) should be mainly a marketing page (a). We need to sell OOo here.

agreed; but also inform.

Well marketing/sell/inform/convincing ... to me it is a bit the same... since I don't think that with inform you mean you want to create an fair and balanced review of our office suite compared to that of others, and then let them decide ;) ... no, we want to persuade them to download OOo with good arguments ;) ... yet I know that selling does have negative connotations as well.

nothing happens :-) Just more of this fiddle-faddle.
:) We'll do our best :)


g.,


Maarten

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