Hi Christian,
thank you for your response. My comments are inline below...

Christian Lohmaier schrieb:
Hi Frank,

On Jan 16, 2008 12:05 PM, Frank Mau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
I'm working for over 10 years in the web-application area for the
Sun-developers of OpenOffice.org and StarOffice/StarSuite. My latest
changes for OpenOffice.org are tagging some native-language
download-pages to give everyone in the community the possibility to get
unified download-statistics (see
http://tools.services.openoffice.org/dashboard/).

Didn't new about those pages before. The charts have "confidential"
written all over, that remark should probably be removed..
Yes, we try to remove this comment, but it's a third party tool. So it needs some time.
In this area I see the problem for our customers to get in an easy way a
OpenOffice.org download. Following requirements I've noticed:

- one click solution (if possible) is the goal
- considering language and platform (Linux RPM/DEB, language-code and
region-code problems)
- get a valid alternative link for other languages and platforms
(currently http://projects.openoffice.org/native-lang.html which is
really not for end-users)
- different release times for localized OpenOffice.org suite
- different download-locations, some are available in Bouncer (OSUOSL)
-> e.g. en-US version, and others are controlled by the native-language
projects -> e.g. German version

So in a few days I'll try to start to get a solution/draft for our
problem. If anyone can give me hints about additional things to take in
consideration, please let me know.

Well, I for myself are in favor of adding alternative ways of
distribution like using BitTorrent. And don't forget CD Compilations
and the like.
Yes, this is also a good way to get our OpenOffice.org and will be available as well beside the typical download.
The current mirror system lacks severe issues. Every release, old
versions get kicked, often enough versions for which there is no QA'd
replacement yet and similar issues.
Valid request. I try to offer a solution in the approach. Currently I can't see any link to older released versions except the 'Archaic Release: OpenOffice.org 1.1.5/1.0.3.1'. Trying something like http://download.openoffice.org/OLD_VERSION runs into an automated redirect to http://download.openoffice.org/ Main problem for old versions is the amount of needed space on the mirrors (Each platform for each language for all versions). But I think this is not a cause to stop a 'One-click' solution for our customers, isn't it? - More interesting are in my eyes the available language-packs which are currently not accessible.

Bouncer solves part of the problems, but unfortunately when using
bouncer, there is a single point of failure, and bouncer did
unfortunately fail quite often. On top of that, bouncer doesn't
support ftp, which makes using resume or using download mangers in
general harder (since http probably defaults to using the browser's
download manager, and that often enough sucks, doesn't support
resuming a download). As OOo is quite large to download, this aspect
should not be forgotten.
Agree with you. Bouncer is good in some aspects but has also some disadvantages. But this is not main-target of the 'One-click' solution, we have to focus on.

Have this in mind plus the alternative for each native-language project to have an own download-page, we have to offer a general page to get all download links like mozilla.org/Firefox does with http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html

That's in my eyes the biggest part of work to deal with. Here we have a great tool named QATrack (http://qatrack.services.openoffice.org/view.php) maintained by André Schnabel and some more volunteers plus native lang-leads!!! - It lists all available OOo versions + language + platform and the related status. This would be a good base for a common OOo-download page.

Thank you,
Frank
ciao
Christian


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