Hi,
Frank Mau wrote:
Hello again,
a first view on the proposal is available at
http://download.openoffice.org/draft.html
As you can see it's more or less a copy of the 2.3.1 download-page
(http://download.openoffice.org/2.3.1/index.html?focus=download).
And your draft.html is intended as a replacement for the
download.ooo/2.3.1/index.html page?
If it is intended as Download Central (download.ooo/index.html) we have
to give it a bit more thought.
I'm not against replacing the <version>/index.html page and we should
certainly measure the change in downloads when replaying it.
I would like to use a piece of HTML/JS (plus .css and .js) for the home
page and download central to implement 1-click download (exactly *one*
:-) as soon as possible - as you mention below. If you give us such a
piece of code I would be happy to use it now at Download Cenbral.
The new workflow has no pass-through page with information about
contributing or graphical advertisement for testing or donations.
If we drop this in favor of less clicks we should at least have a
follow-up page that is shown after the start of the 1-click download.
See the download process of the DE project or for extensions for an
examples of follow-up pages.
Greetings
Stefan
But
removed the wide-green range of ugly links. Instead of this a simple
link for the used platform and language is given. Below a general link
to all available downloads (should be extended by each language).
All other main-links are related to P2P, CD ordering and the extension
portal. Technical information and development links are right-hand on
the screen. The previous 'help us testing'-link is gone.
In most cases this should be enough for our end-users to get an
OpenOffice.org by One-Click (if the OpenOffice.org is available by
OSUOSL-Bouncer) or some clicks less by the native language download-page.
The switch to have a Bouncer-link or a link to the native-language page
is set in the download.js. So each NL-community can set this for their
own. My advice is, use the one-click-feature for OSUOSL-supported
languages like English US, French, Dutch, Russian, Japanese .... This
will be the easiest way to get an OpenOffice.org by one click.
I know we had a beginning discussion about Bouncer with its
disadvantages. But in most cases the result (a download) will be
delivered in time. And beside this, Bouncer is only a part in this
approach, not the approach itself!
Important for this proposal is to get released versions as soon as
possible to the customer. Updating the large list on
http://download.openoffice.org/other.html is critical. To get the data
we need a central point/tool to hold the information. The tool is named
QATrack (http://qatrack.services.openoffice.org/), written by some of
our community-members, special thanks!!! It allows us to get the entries
for each language in an automated way (with some adaptations in the
future) so we can guarantee further needed updates. In the meantime we
have to update it manually.
Currently I've activated bouncer-links for en-US, ja, fr, ru, nl and de!
Lookout
The work on the new page-design is going forward and I expect very good
results for our customers. Thanks to all of them who are working on
it!!! - The One-Click link can be also placed on our homepage, see the
mock-up links for 'I want to download OpenOffice.org' ...
Ok, and now some Click-counts (starting on
download.openoffice.org/index.html or draft.html) for Windows on a
windows-machine with given language:
language old new
English-US 2 1
German 4* 1
French 3* 1
Hungarian 3* 2*
* uses the native language download-page not Bouncer!
If you're on a en-US machine and looking for example German
OpenOffice.org you need in the new version 2 clicks and on the old way 6
clicks. So in general we can reduce the number of clicks drastically.
Try out and give me response, thank you
Frank
Frank Mau schrieb:
Hi Sophie, et al
please let me introduce myself. My name is Frank Mau and I'm a Sun
developer (located in Hamburg/Europe) in the tooling team for
OpenOffice.org/StarOffice. Some of you know me as a contact person for
translation. Beside this, I'm also responsible for the
Online-Update-Backend, Issue-tracking and some other services.
I'm working for over 10 years in the web-application area for the
Sun-developers of OpenOffice.org and StarOffice/StarSuite. My latest
changes for OpenOffice.org are tagging some native-language
download-pages to give everyone in the community the possibility to
get unified download-statistics (see
http://tools.services.openoffice.org/dashboard/).
In this area I see the problem for our customers to get in an easy way
a OpenOffice.org download. Following requirements I've noticed:
- one click solution (if possible) is the goal
- considering language and platform (Linux RPM/DEB, language-code and
region-code problems)
- get a valid alternative link for other languages and platforms
(currently http://projects.openoffice.org/native-lang.html which is
really not for end-users)
- different release times for localized OpenOffice.org suite
- different download-locations, some are available in Bouncer (OSUOSL)
-> e.g. en-US version, and others are controlled by the
native-language projects -> e.g. German version
So in a few days I'll try to start to get a solution/draft for our
problem. If anyone can give me hints about additional things to take
in consideration, please let me know. In my mind is a pragmatic
solution like the Mozilla foundation use for Firefox: Have a button
with a link for the set language and platform plus a link beside to
reach the large list for the 'Other systems and languages' we have. In
our case a table for all languages and all available platforms.
Ok, I'll stop now. But I'm pleased to see that we've identified this
critical issue for our customers. Hope that the number of customers
will increase like it does form 2.2.1 to 2.3.1!
Cheers,
Frank
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