I got a javascript that will detect the OS and give you the URL of the OOo that you want.

the script is very simple:

<script type="text/javascript">
        _uacct = "UA-499843-2";
        urchinTracker();
        var OSName="Unknown OS";
if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Win")!=-1) OSName="http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=win&lang=es&version=2.3.0";; if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Mac")!=-1) OSName="http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=macosxintel&lang=es&version=2.3.0";; if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("X11")!=-1) OSName="http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=linuxintel&lang=es&version=2.3.0";; if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Linux")!=-1) OSName="http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=linuxintel&lang=es&version=2.3.0";;
</script>

<script>document.write('<a href="'+OSName+'">');</script><img src="images/index_step1.png" border="0" /></a>

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:45:36 -0600, Frank Mau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello again,
a first view on the proposal is available at http://download.openoffice.org/draft.html

As you can see it's more or less a copy of the 2.3.1 download-page (http://download.openoffice.org/2.3.1/index.html?focus=download). But removed the wide-green range of ugly links. Instead of this a simple link for the used platform and language is given. Below a general link to all available downloads (should be extended by each language).

All other main-links are related to P2P, CD ordering and the extension portal. Technical information and development links are right-hand on the screen. The previous 'help us testing'-link is gone.

In most cases this should be enough for our end-users to get an OpenOffice.org by One-Click (if the OpenOffice.org is available by OSUOSL-Bouncer) or some clicks less by the native language download-page.

The switch to have a Bouncer-link or a link to the native-language page is set in the download.js. So each NL-community can set this for their own. My advice is, use the one-click-feature for OSUOSL-supported languages like English US, French, Dutch, Russian, Japanese .... This will be the easiest way to get an OpenOffice.org by one click.

I know we had a beginning discussion about Bouncer with its disadvantages. But in most cases the result (a download) will be delivered in time. And beside this, Bouncer is only a part in this approach, not the approach itself!

Important for this proposal is to get released versions as soon as possible to the customer. Updating the large list on http://download.openoffice.org/other.html is critical. To get the data we need a central point/tool to hold the information. The tool is named QATrack (http://qatrack.services.openoffice.org/), written by some of our community-members, special thanks!!! It allows us to get the entries for each language in an automated way (with some adaptations in the future) so we can guarantee further needed updates. In the meantime we have to update it manually.

Currently I've activated bouncer-links for en-US, ja, fr, ru, nl and de!

Lookout
The work on the new page-design is going forward and I expect very good results for our customers. Thanks to all of them who are working on it!!! - The One-Click link can be also placed on our homepage, see the mock-up links for 'I want to download OpenOffice.org' ...

Ok, and now some Click-counts (starting on download.openoffice.org/index.html or draft.html) for Windows on a windows-machine with given language:

language    old   new
English-US   2     1
German       4*    1
French       3*    1
Hungarian    3*    2*

* uses the native language download-page not Bouncer!

If you're on a en-US machine and looking for example German OpenOffice.org you need in the new version 2 clicks and on the old way 6 clicks. So in general we can reduce the number of clicks drastically.

Try out and give me response, thank you
Frank

Frank Mau schrieb:
Hi Sophie, et al
please let me introduce myself. My name is Frank Mau and I'm a Sun developer (located in Hamburg/Europe) in the tooling team for OpenOffice.org/StarOffice. Some of you know me as a contact person for translation. Beside this, I'm also responsible for the Online-Update-Backend, Issue-tracking and some other services. I'm working for over 10 years in the web-application area for the Sun-developers of OpenOffice.org and StarOffice/StarSuite. My latest changes for OpenOffice.org are tagging some native-language download-pages to give everyone in the community the possibility to get unified download-statistics (see http://tools.services.openoffice.org/dashboard/). In this area I see the problem for our customers to get in an easy way a OpenOffice.org download. Following requirements I've noticed:
 - one click solution (if possible) is the goal
- considering language and platform (Linux RPM/DEB, language-code and region-code problems) - get a valid alternative link for other languages and platforms (currently http://projects.openoffice.org/native-lang.html which is really not for end-users)
- different release times for localized OpenOffice.org suite
- different download-locations, some are available in Bouncer (OSUOSL) -> e.g. en-US version, and others are controlled by the native-language projects -> e.g. German version So in a few days I'll try to start to get a solution/draft for our problem. If anyone can give me hints about additional things to take in consideration, please let me know. In my mind is a pragmatic solution like the Mozilla foundation use for Firefox: Have a button with a link for the set language and platform plus a link beside to reach the large list for the 'Other systems and languages' we have. In our case a table for all languages and all available platforms. Ok, I'll stop now. But I'm pleased to see that we've identified this critical issue for our customers. Hope that the number of customers will increase like it does form 2.2.1 to 2.3.1!
 Cheers,
Frank
 sophie schrieb:
Hi all,
Christian Lohmaier wrote:
Hi *,
and happy new year :-)

and happy new year too :)

On Dec 21, 2007 4:04 PM, :murb: [maarten brouwers] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Complicated business
5. You can go into enourmous detail with detecting, but how far do you
   want to go (RPM/DEB discussion)
6. The problem would be too hard if we want to tackle multiple languages
   at the same time, and we should tackle that, since otherwise they
   might simply leave

The current idea is that the 'download button' is not always a direct
one-click download, but in case of linux may for example present the user with a new page, explaining the different options, including maybe even a
recommendation of just trying to start Synaptic.

OK, then all this fuzz was based on the assumpiion, that it should
really be a one-click solution, as has been stressed multiple times.
If it is not a one click solution but a step-by-step solution with a
reduced set of options to choose from, based on the autodetection,
then I'm far less reserved.

Just jump here to give a input from what I see from moderated messages : most of the users don't understand that the large green area is in fact to be considered as a button that they have to click on to access the download page in whatever OS they need.
They only see :
- the sentence : Download OpenOffice.org
- the link : Order OpenOffice.org on a CD
- the link : Download OpenOffice.org via P2P
So may be making the Download OpenOffice.org a real button or a real link could help in a first step.

Kind regards
Sophie

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