On 30 Jan 2008, at 16:18, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
I got a javascript that will detect the OS and give you the URL of
the OOo that you want.
the script is very simple:
<script type="text/javascript">
_uacct = "UA-499843-2";
urchinTracker();
var OSName="Unknown OS";
if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Win")!=-1) OSName="http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=win&lang=es&version=2.3.0
";
if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Mac")!=-1) OSName="http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=macosxintel&lang=es&version=2.3.0
";
Sorry, this isn't good enough. You are not taking into account PowerPC
users on the mac.
Also shouldn't OSName be OSURL, which I think may be a better name?
Shaun
if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("X11")!=-1) OSName="http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=linuxintel&lang=es&version=2.3.0
";
if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Linux")!=-1) OSName="http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=linuxintel&lang=es&version=2.3.0
";
</script>
<script>document.write('<a href="'+OSName+'">');</script><img
src="images/index_step1.png" border="0" /></a>
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:45:36 -0600, Frank Mau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hello again,
a first view on the proposal is available at
http://download.openoffice.org/draft.html
As you can see it's more or less a copy of the 2.3.1 download-page (http://download.openoffice.org/2.3.1/index.html?focus=download
). But removed the wide-green range of ugly links. Instead of this
a simple link for the used platform and language is given. Below a
general link to all available downloads (should be extended by each
language).
All other main-links are related to P2P, CD ordering and the
extension portal. Technical information and development links are
right-hand on the screen. The previous 'help us testing'-link is
gone.
In most cases this should be enough for our end-users to get an
OpenOffice.org by One-Click (if the OpenOffice.org is available by
OSUOSL-Bouncer) or some clicks less by the native language download-
page.
The switch to have a Bouncer-link or a link to the native-language
page is set in the download.js. So each NL-community can set this
for their own. My advice is, use the one-click-feature for OSUOSL-
supported languages like English US, French, Dutch, Russian,
Japanese .... This will be the easiest way to get an OpenOffice.org
by one click.
I know we had a beginning discussion about Bouncer with its
disadvantages. But in most cases the result (a download) will be
delivered in time. And beside this, Bouncer is only a part in this
approach, not the approach itself!
Important for this proposal is to get released versions as soon as
possible to the customer. Updating the large list on http://download.openoffice.org/other.html
is critical. To get the data we need a central point/tool to hold
the information. The tool is named QATrack (http://qatrack.services.openoffice.org/
), written by some of our community-members, special thanks!!! It
allows us to get the entries for each language in an automated way
(with some adaptations in the future) so we can guarantee further
needed updates. In the meantime we have to update it manually.
Currently I've activated bouncer-links for en-US, ja, fr, ru, nl
and de!
Lookout
The work on the new page-design is going forward and I expect very
good results for our customers. Thanks to all of them who are
working on it!!! - The One-Click link can be also placed on our
homepage, see the mock-up links for 'I want to download
OpenOffice.org' ...
Ok, and now some Click-counts (starting on download.openoffice.org/
index.html or draft.html) for Windows on a windows-machine with
given language:
language old new
English-US 2 1
German 4* 1
French 3* 1
Hungarian 3* 2*
* uses the native language download-page not Bouncer!
If you're on a en-US machine and looking for example German
OpenOffice.org you need in the new version 2 clicks and on the old
way 6 clicks. So in general we can reduce the number of clicks
drastically.
Try out and give me response, thank you
Frank
Frank Mau schrieb:
Hi Sophie, et al
please let me introduce myself. My name is Frank Mau and I'm a Sun
developer (located in Hamburg/Europe) in the tooling team for
OpenOffice.org/StarOffice. Some of you know me as a contact person
for translation. Beside this, I'm also responsible for the Online-
Update-Backend, Issue-tracking and some other services.
I'm working for over 10 years in the web-application area for the
Sun-developers of OpenOffice.org and StarOffice/StarSuite. My
latest changes for OpenOffice.org are tagging some native-language
download-pages to give everyone in the community the possibility
to get unified download-statistics (see http://tools.services.openoffice.org/dashboard/)
.
In this area I see the problem for our customers to get in an easy
way a OpenOffice.org download. Following requirements I've noticed:
- one click solution (if possible) is the goal
- considering language and platform (Linux RPM/DEB, language-code
and region-code problems)
- get a valid alternative link for other languages and platforms
(currently http://projects.openoffice.org/native-lang.html which
is really not for end-users)
- different release times for localized OpenOffice.org suite
- different download-locations, some are available in Bouncer
(OSUOSL) -> e.g. en-US version, and others are controlled by the
native-language projects -> e.g. German version
So in a few days I'll try to start to get a solution/draft for our
problem. If anyone can give me hints about additional things to
take in consideration, please let me know. In my mind is a
pragmatic solution like the Mozilla foundation use for Firefox:
Have a button with a link for the set language and platform plus a
link beside to reach the large list for the 'Other systems and
languages' we have. In our case a table for all languages and all
available platforms.
Ok, I'll stop now. But I'm pleased to see that we've identified
this critical issue for our customers. Hope that the number of
customers will increase like it does form 2.2.1 to 2.3.1!
Cheers,
Frank
sophie schrieb:
Hi all,
Christian Lohmaier wrote:
Hi *,
and happy new year :-)
and happy new year too :)
On Dec 21, 2007 4:04 PM, :murb: [maarten brouwers]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Complicated business
5. You can go into enourmous detail with detecting, but how
far do you
want to go (RPM/DEB discussion)
6. The problem would be too hard if we want to tackle multiple
languages
at the same time, and we should tackle that, since otherwise
they
might simply leave
The current idea is that the 'download button' is not always a
direct
one-click download, but in case of linux may for example
present the user
with a new page, explaining the different options, including
maybe even a
recommendation of just trying to start Synaptic.
OK, then all this fuzz was based on the assumpiion, that it should
really be a one-click solution, as has been stressed multiple
times.
If it is not a one click solution but a step-by-step solution
with a
reduced set of options to choose from, based on the autodetection,
then I'm far less reserved.
Just jump here to give a input from what I see from moderated
messages : most of the users don't understand that the large
green area is in fact to be considered as a button that they have
to click on to access the download page in whatever OS they need.
They only see :
- the sentence : Download OpenOffice.org
- the link : Order OpenOffice.org on a CD
- the link : Download OpenOffice.org via P2P
So may be making the Download OpenOffice.org a real button or a
real link could help in a first step.
Kind regards
Sophie
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