On Saturday 09 February 2008 10:54:31 Ivan M wrote: > Hi Graham, Hey Ivan,
> > Nope, those 'action statements' have been there for a while *remembers > traumatic procedure of booking driver's license test*. Heh, Darn it. The annoying thing is when Maarten asked for examples when I first suggested the concept, I coudn't give him one, even after a lot of searching... and there was an example right on my back doorstep! > > There's one big difference with the LTSA example and OOo - mainly, OOo > is software, and software webpages use icons that are widely > recognized. Try pairing an icon with the LTSA action statements - > people would have a hard time picking out what they are for. My justification is that we are not trying to get people to use a piece of software, we're trying to get them to use a service. In that light there is not a lot of difference. Either way it is an interesting debate and probably an area that could use some research. Icons vs well constructed text. There is not a lot of the latter on the net. :) Cheers G > > I'm opposed to the icons, mainly because there's not enough space for > them AND the 'banner ad' to keep a clean layout in 1024x768. But I'm > willing to give them a shot (you'll never know till you try). I'll > post the results when I'm done (should be either today or tomorrow), > and then we can make a better informed decision. > > - Ivan. > > On Feb 9, 2008 9:43 AM, Graham Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 08 February 2008 23:19:04 :murb: [maarten brouwers] wrote: > > > Hi Ivan, > > > > > > Some suggestions, sorted by my own preference: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > The icons I intend on using are colorful, so they will be desaturated > > > > (not completely greyscale but visibly close) by default - on > > > > mouseover, they will obtain their full color. > > > > > > Sounds excellent to me... and I'd think that a minimum of detail works > > > best with the current design. And when it comes to colour, maybe you > > > could try to adhere to a fixed pallette (that's why I sticked with > > > greyscale, to make it easier ;) ) > > > > Interestingly, today I was changing ownership on my new 4wd and lo and > > behold someone in the NZ Govt has been listening to our discussions > > > > https://transact.landtransport.govt.nz/ > > > > Action statements used well and it should be noted no icons. > > > > The more I think about it the more I am convinced that icons are simply a > > recipe for confusion. This is the first time I've used this site ( I > > think that they probably came to the action statement system before us > > but I like to think that they copied us! ;) ) It loaded like greased > > lightning on my crappy dialup connection, it was very simple to navigate > > and easily understandable. Excellent use of mouseover to aid navigation. > > > > If there is a convention that could be a given as the single most widely > > used convention on the net it would arguably be: Links change on > > Mouseover. > > > > Lets look at a response to a mouseover rather than an icon. I like the > > mouseover change to the subtext, lets look at something like that for the > > main part of the action statement rather than an icon which the new user > > has to interpret. > > > > > g., > > > > > > > > > Maarten > > > > Cheers > > GL > > > > > > -- > > Graham Lauder, > > OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ > > http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html > > > > INGOTs Moderator New Zealand > > www.theingots.org.nz > > > > GET DRESSED : GET OOOGEAR > > Gear for the well dressed OOo Advocate > > www.ooogear.co.nz > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Moderator New Zealand www.theingots.org.nz GET DRESSED : GET OOOGEAR Gear for the well dressed OOo Advocate www.ooogear.co.nz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
