Hi Ivan, Rosana, all!

Ivan, thank you very much for addressing this topic. I just want to add
some further concerns ;-)

Am Samstag, den 05.06.2010, 11:30 +1200 schrieb Ivan M:
> Hi Rosana, all,
> 
> I have updated the favicon on the website to the new OOo 3.2.1
> application icon at 16x16 (do you think we need to include larger
> sizes?) and also the first action statement icon. Hopefully these
> changes are not too controversial :)
> Now onto the new logo in the website...

Well, at least it turns out that the visual language changed a lot - and
that it is finally really required to talk about how the visuals should
look like. I still didn't see any description by the inventors of the
change.

> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela
> <rosana.ard...@sun.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I also agree that it is necessary to have the new logo on the website. [...]
> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/4/41/OOo_homepage_newblue.png
> 
> The header in this graphic appears to have been lightened throughout;
> this is a bad idea IMO as it reduces the contrast between the white
> text and the surrounding background found throughout the header.

Absolutely. And here the weird things start ... let's state an example.
The background might get a bit lighter and the text may then become
unreadable. Okay, then we'll adapt the text and make it darker. This may
mess up some CSS styles, so that other parts of the website change (same
for the other service pages). Then this get's adapted when it gets
identified ... and so on and so on. To me, this appears like "design by
accident".

My questions are about the "minimal changes" Rosana talked about. What
is the timeframe of the sub-optimal presentation we talk about? If we
talk about days or a few weeks ... okay. Otherwise I fear that the
experience of the website visitors is not that good.

So is there any plan ... like ... "For 2 months, we change the website
headers of the main website and all services-subdomains to reflect the
logo change. Therefore we accept visual inconsistencies (color,
style, ...) until this or that has been supplied by the visual design
and branding team. We'll revisit this decision XXXX-XX-XX."

But, maybe something like that already exists. Currently, I am unable to
look up IRC chats or other information, since I got lost a bit on the
branding wiki pages. I think there are about 5 different pages for
Colors which all appear to be valid :-)

> One alternative could be to adapt the header to the new logo's colors
> - see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Template-after3.2.1.PNG
> and compare it with the current colors (personally I like the current
> colors better with the current design, but as we all know the new logo
> doesn't work so great with them)

Wow, my initial impression was "how depressing". If this (still?)
represents an open sky, then the environmental pollution has finally
arrived on the website.
<irony>And mimicking sea water is currently no alternative.</irony> 

Sorry for being so negative, your image is well presented - as always.
It simply shows what topics are still open right from the start some
months before.

Cheers,
Christoph


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