I think it would help to have a neutral (i.e. Apache) host for the
documentation if you want to have more contributors. I'm pretty sure
many would be reluctant to contribute to something that is then
presented as "From this company that I don't actually work for".

To my untrained eye the legal situation seems to be alright. ComSysto
are well within their rights to host this documentation, it's
originally theirs after all. And don't get me wrong, it is definitely a
very good piece of work. Also, we could use Andrea's contribution to
the ASF and host that here.

But I think it would be very confusing for users if we had a second,
diverging version of the documentation at Apache.

I think it should either become the official documentation and live at
Apache, *or* it should be at ComSysto. Either way is fine, but not both.

Therefore, I'd like to change my vote to -0.5 until this is cleared up. 

Carl-Eric

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 23:10:48 +0200
Andrea Del Bene <[email protected]> wrote:

> I understand your concerns. The original plan was to bring it to
> GitHub to easily collect contributions also from other users, hence
> its repository should became public. However, this project is quite
> recent and is a work in progress and I must ask my colleagues and my
> boss for more details about it.
> That said, I still believe that the natural evolution of the guide is
> to be part of the project to become that free documentation that was 
> missing. In addition, I hope that under the Apache umbrella, it will
> be easier to maintain it and find other contributors.
> 
> 
> > Andrea,
> >
> > Does this mean that there will be two versions of the guide ? One
> > at Apache that uses the attachment in
> > WICKET-5321<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-5321> and
> > another maintained by ComSysto ?
> > If YES then which one you will work on ? :-)
> >
> > I understand why Martijn wants the guide to be in ASF but my
> > concerns are that:
> > - there will be two versions of the guide and this will confuse the
> > users,
> > - and the ASF one will be behind the "commercially supported one"
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Andrea Del Bene
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> there's no problem from a legal point of view. My company started
> >> to convert the guide to HTML the same days Martijn asked me to
> >> join Wicket team and we (at comSysto) are planning to enrich it
> >> with some use-cases from our customers. That said, as long as you
> >> use my original guide, you don't have to be afraid of anything as
> >> it was published under Creative Commons by-nc-sa
> >> (http://creativecommons.org/**licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/>)
> >> and you are free to modify and redistribute it. In addition,
> >> there's an explicit agreement between me and ASF that grants to
> >> this last one any right on this document for future
> >> usages/developments.
> >>
> >> Hope to have been clear.
> >>
> >> Andrea.
> >>
> >>   On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Martin Grigorov
> >> <[email protected]
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>   -0
> >>>> The guide is already published in HTML format [1] by ComSysto -
> >>>> Andrea's new employer.
> >>>> [...] whether everything is still legal.
> >>>>
> >>>>   I'll let Andrea comment on the ComSysto part.
> >>> As far as legal is concerned: if Andrea still intends to grant us
> >>> the guide, it is legal and within the ASF guidelines. AFAIK the
> >>> document was written by Andrea in his time and by him, and it is
> >>> his right to distribute
> >>> and license as he sees fit.
> >>>
> >>> Martijn
> >>>
> >>>
> 

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