On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[email protected]>wrote:

> Azeez don't we need the management API in worker nodes? I assume the
> answer is yes ..
>

If you look at the current worker-manager separated setup, we don't have a
single instance where the management node BE or FE calls into the worker
node BE.


>
> So in that case the worker contains the runtime container logic plus a
> management API (running at a separate port etc. and enabled by request).
> The management node contains an admin app that talks to the worker nodes
> via the API and other means (such as ADC). Right?
>
> +1 as long as we can still ship a multi-profile distro by default where
> all of this is in one JVM and then you give the personalty at boot time.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Samisa Abeysinghe <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> With the worker-manager concept, we no longer require FE-BE separation.
>>>> There is no need to have FE-BE separation for the management node. So, I
>>>> think we can completely do away with that concept.
>>>
>>>
>>> But how do we separate the worker stuff from manager stuff?
>>> Is that not
>>> Manger == FE + BE
>>> Worker == BE
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No, FE is the front end of the management admin client. BE is the
>> management service/API. Worker provides the runtime to run services, apps,
>> processes, mediation etc. We have made the mistake of calling this runtime
>> as BE as well. Management nodes will not ideally require this runtime, but
>> we may need to have some parts of it. e.g. validating the Synapse config
>> will require Synapse to be in the management node. We will never have a
>> case where a FE talks to a BE in a worker node. When it comes to the mgt
>> node, there is no need for separating the FE & BE.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> What do you guys think?
>>>>
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