I agree that migrating the build to Maven will help but it might not be worth the effort at this point in time.
Gary On Mon, Jan 30, 2023, 08:09 Elliotte Rusty Harold <elh...@ibiblio.org> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 10:02 AM Gary D. Gregory <ggreg...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > Hi Mukul, > > > > Thank you for working on another RC! > > > > In general, our build commands still output way too much information by > default IMO. The build should be quiet and tell me when things go wrong > IMO, sure some progress information is OK but I don't care that each .xsl > file has passed its test for example. WDYT? > > > > You are absolutely right. This is a general failure mode of most > (all?) build tools. An early principle of test driven development that > tool vendors have either forgotten or never learned in the first place > is that passing tests generate no output. > > Beyond simply test output, you are also correct that most tools spam > logs with junk no one wants, no one will read, and simply obscure the > rare piece of useful information. Anything that can be done to improve > this situation is valuable, but it's a long slog. A lot of it needs to > happen in repos where maintainers are way too invested in their own > tool to consider that actual users simply don't care to know what's > going on in each and every method in their tool. That reminds me. I'm > overdue to put some more effort into fixing this problem in Maven, > though I'm afraid that won't help with Xalan's ant build. > > > -- > Elliotte Rusty Harold > elh...@ibiblio.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@xalan.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@xalan.apache.org > >