Eran, thanks for great informations! Definitely it would help! Moon, I can agree that the benefit from adopting Typescript is overwhelming the learning costs. (I guess cost would be quite small enough, it's simple!)
Alex AtScript also seems great, we can discuss it later like Moon said. Facebook Flow, has same purpose to Typescript and has similar popularity. But Flow will throw error on every line if we don't modify our whole js codes. Also Typescript goes better with Angular js than Flow. On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 4:38:23 PM IT CTO <[email protected]> wrote: > If I can add my 2 cents here... > AFAIK Palantir has chose typescript for their web version and developed > some opensource tool to help the process. this include the following: > A linter for the TypeScript language. > An Eclipse plug-in for linting TypeScript code. > A Grunt plugin for tslint. > An Eclipse plug-in for developing in the TypeScript language. > > All of the above available on github at https://github.com/palantir > > HTH, > Eran > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:58 AM, moon soo Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > One thing we have to think about is, it'll require current contributors > and > > future contributors additional knowledge. ie. Understanding Typescript. > > > > So the question from me is, Are the benefits that Typescript bringing > large > > enough to negate the burden that current+future contributors understand > > typescript? > > > > To me, probably yes. I've look through Typescript and i could understand > > quickly and i can see how much it'll be helpful for the project. > > > > > > About AtScript, I think it's not widely used compare to Typescript( > > http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=typescript%2C% > 20atscript&cmpt=q&tz= > > ). > > While AtScript is superset of Typescript, I think it's safe to discuss > > about using it after we adopt Typescript. > > > > Best, > > moon > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Kevin Kim (Sangwoo) <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > @Alex and Damien, > > > Great point! > > > Cannot agree more the new system must go well with Angular js. > > > > > > For Angular js, > > > look at this project: > > > https://github.com/borisyankov/DefinitelyTyped/tree/master/angularjs > > > > > > it defines Angular modules into Typescripts. > > > In our company, there are two project using Angular + Typescript using > > > the DefinitelyTyped, > > > maybe I can bring some know-hows on that. > > > > > > @Damien > > > One good point of Typescript is, they will not throw any errors when we > > > move onto them. If we have no type on code, it work just like a > > > javascript. (As > > > I already mentioned, it just work if we change xx.js -> xx.ts, just > > > changing the filename) > > > You can have some simple tutorial on that here. > > > http://www.typescriptlang.org/Tutorial > > > > > > Also building Typescript goes well with Grunt, I'm attaching build file > > > we're using. > > > > > > Gruntfile.js > > > === > > > module.exports = function(grunt) { > > > > > > // Project configuration. > > > grunt.initConfig({ > > > pkg: grunt.file.readJSON('package.json'), > > > watch : { > > > scripts: { > > > files: ['sticker/static/ts/**/*.ts'], > > > tasks: ['typescript'], > > > options: { > > > spawn: false > > > } > > > } > > > }, > > > typescript: { > > > build: { > > > src : ['sticker/static/ts/**/*.ts'], > > > dest : 'sticker/static/js/', > > > options: { > > > mudule : 'amd', > > > target: 'es3', > > > sourceMap: false, > > > basePath : 'sticker/static/ts' > > > } > > > } > > > } > > > }); > > > > > > > > > grunt.loadNpmTasks('grunt-typescript'); > > > > > > // Load the plugin that provides the "watch" task. > > > grunt.loadNpmTasks('grunt-contrib-watch'); > > > > > > // Default task(s). > > > grunt.registerTask('default', ['typescript']); > > > > > > }; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 2:38:54 PM Corneau Damien <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I think it can be included if it matches multiple conditions: > > > > - Has to be angularjs ready > > > > - Has to be easy to set up (currently we are mainly using yeoman to > > > create > > > > new controllers etc..) > > > > - Has to fit inside of our build and dev Grunt rules > > > > > > > > Not a big fan of adding changes that big just to add the var types > into > > > the > > > > code, one thing I'm scared is: Will it pop errors everywhere once > it's > > > > activated? (because of missing types?) > > > > > > > > IDE support is not that important since you can always tell your > editor > > > to > > > > use javascript highlighting and work without auto-completion. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Alex B. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Having types always strike as a good idea to me, thanks for > bringing > > > this > > > > > discussion! > > > > > > > > > > Just to understand the ground better: typescript is made by > microsoft > > > and > > > > > AFAIK there are other implementations like Flow > > > > > <https://github.com/facebook/flow> from Facebook and AtScript from > > > > Google > > > > > (part of Angular, superset of Typescript, brings annotations too) > > > > > > > > > > I wonder, should we also consider alignment with angular as an > > > important > > > > > point for whatever alternative we look at? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Kevin (Sangwoo) Kim < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello developers, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to open a discussion on getting Typescript into > zeppelin. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.typescriptlang.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Typescript brings type system onto javascript codes, which > improves > > > > > > productivity working with huge js codes. > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the really good point of Typescript is, 100% compatibility > > > with > > > > > > javascript, that is, > > > > > > if we just change xxx.js into xxx.ts, it just works. > > > > > > Then we can add some classes and type annotation gradually. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some frontend guys in our company already compared similar > > technology > > > > > like > > > > > > coffeescript and finally using Typescript and they are really > > > > satisfied. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, IDE support could be a limitation of > Typescript. > > > > > > IntelliJ ultimate edition ($199) or Visual Studio can be used to > > > > utilize > > > > > > full editing feature of Typescript (auto completion, etc) > > > > > > I can confirm syntax highlighting feature for Typescript works on > > > > Sublime > > > > > > editor. > > > > > > (Of course you can use any editor or IDE to edit ts, tough.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Any idea on this topic is welcomed! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Eran | CTO >
