Thanks! I'll try to start some work on there.

On Fri Feb 06 2015 at 2:24:08 PM Alex B. <[email protected]> wrote:

> If that would be of any help, please feel free to use this branch
> https://github.com/NFLabs/zeppelin/pull/321
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Kevin Kim (Sangwoo) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > @Anthony
> > I found a PR implementing ts angular generator in yeoman project, not
> very
> > sure it will work or not.
> > https://github.com/yeoman/generator-angular/pull/539
> > Would you look at it?
> >
> > @Alex,
> > Yes, tough it seems we have some challenges like code-generating by
> yeoman
> > as Anthony raised,
> > Many guys are positive on Typescript, I guess it worths to try at least.
> >
> > I guess frontend building script is Alex or Anthony's specialties, can
> you
> > guys open a branch and let me start work on it?
> > Or I will try modifying build script in case you are busy.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > On Thu Feb 05 2015 at 10:27:05 AM Anthony Corbacho <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Currently we are using yoman to create angular directive,service
> etcetc.
> > > basicaly what i do is something like yo angular:directive mydirective,
> > then
> > > yo man will create the directive.js under script directive and also the
> > > directive test and update the index.html and all other stuff.
> > >
> > > Will it be possible to generate in the same way the ts file? if not i
> am
> > > not favorable for a switch.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Alex B. <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Kevin, Eran, Moon, Damien -  thank you for listing a good points
> about
> > > > tooling, support of the vanila JS and angular!
> > > >
> > > > Through this thread it looks like Zeppelin project is ready to accept
> > > > Typescript contributions, starting with frontend build script update.
> > Is
> > > > that true?
> > > >
> > > > Then we also going to need some docs and examples to quickstart
> > frontend
> > > > development for future contributors to mitigate the issue with
> > knowledge
> > > > transfer that Moon brought.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Kevin (Sangwoo) Kim <
> > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Eran, thanks for great informations! Definitely it would help!
> > > > >
> > > > > Moon,
> > > > > I can agree that the benefit from adopting Typescript is
> overwhelming
> > > the
> > > > > learning costs. (I guess cost would be quite small enough, it's
> > > simple!)
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex
> > > > > AtScript also seems great, we can discuss it later like Moon said.
> > > > >
> > > > > Facebook Flow, has same purpose to Typescript and has similar
> > > popularity.
> > > > > But Flow will throw error on every line if we don't modify our
> whole
> > js
> > > > > codes. Also Typescript goes better with Angular js than Flow.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 4:38:23 PM IT CTO <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > If I can add my 2 cents here...
> > > > > > AFAIK Palantir has chose typescript for their web version and
> > > developed
> > > > > > some opensource tool to help the process. this include the
> > following:
> > > > > > A linter for the TypeScript language.
> > > > > > An Eclipse plug-in for linting TypeScript code.
> > > > > > A Grunt plugin for tslint.
> > > > > > An Eclipse plug-in for developing in the TypeScript language.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All of the above available on github at
> > https://github.com/palantir
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > Eran
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:58 AM, moon soo Lee <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > One thing we have to think about is, it'll require current
> > > > contributors
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > future contributors additional knowledge. ie. Understanding
> > > > Typescript.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So the question from me is, Are the benefits that Typescript
> > > bringing
> > > > > > large
> > > > > > > enough to negate the burden that current+future contributors
> > > > understand
> > > > > > > typescript?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To me, probably yes. I've look through Typescript and i could
> > > > > understand
> > > > > > > quickly and i can see how much it'll be helpful for the
> project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > About AtScript, I think it's not widely used compare to
> > Typescript(
> > > > > > > http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=typescript%2C%
> > > > > > 20atscript&cmpt=q&tz=
> > > > > > > ).
> > > > > > > While AtScript is superset of Typescript, I think it's safe to
> > > > discuss
> > > > > > > about using it after we adopt Typescript.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > moon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Kevin Kim (Sangwoo) <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > @Alex and Damien,
> > > > > > > > Great point!
> > > > > > > > Cannot agree more the new system must go well with Angular
> js.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For Angular js,
> > > > > > > > look at this project:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > https://github.com/borisyankov/DefinitelyTyped/tree/master/angularjs
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it defines Angular modules into Typescripts.
> > > > > > > > In our company, there are two project using Angular +
> > Typescript
> > > > > using
> > > > > > > > the DefinitelyTyped,
> > > > > > > > maybe I can bring some know-hows on that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > @Damien
> > > > > > > > One good point of Typescript is, they will not throw any
> errors
> > > > when
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > > move onto them. If we have no type on code, it work just
> like a
> > > > > > > > javascript. (As
> > > > > > > > I already mentioned, it just work if we change xx.js ->
> xx.ts,
> > > just
> > > > > > > > changing the filename)
> > > > > > > > You can have some simple tutorial on that here.
> > > > > > > > http://www.typescriptlang.org/Tutorial
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also building Typescript goes well with Grunt, I'm attaching
> > > build
> > > > > file
> > > > > > > > we're using.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gruntfile.js
> > > > > > > > ===
> > > > > > > > module.exports = function(grunt) {
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     // Project configuration.
> > > > > > > >     grunt.initConfig({
> > > > > > > >         pkg: grunt.file.readJSON('package.json'),
> > > > > > > >         watch : {
> > > > > > > >             scripts: {
> > > > > > > >                 files: ['sticker/static/ts/**/*.ts'],
> > > > > > > >                 tasks: ['typescript'],
> > > > > > > >                 options: {
> > > > > > > >                     spawn: false
> > > > > > > >                 }
> > > > > > > >             }
> > > > > > > >         },
> > > > > > > >         typescript: {
> > > > > > > >             build: {
> > > > > > > >                 src : ['sticker/static/ts/**/*.ts'],
> > > > > > > >                 dest : 'sticker/static/js/',
> > > > > > > >                 options: {
> > > > > > > >                     mudule : 'amd',
> > > > > > > >                     target: 'es3',
> > > > > > > >                     sourceMap: false,
> > > > > > > >                     basePath : 'sticker/static/ts'
> > > > > > > >                 }
> > > > > > > >             }
> > > > > > > >         }
> > > > > > > >     });
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     grunt.loadNpmTasks('grunt-typescript');
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     // Load the plugin that provides the "watch" task.
> > > > > > > >     grunt.loadNpmTasks('grunt-contrib-watch');
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     // Default task(s).
> > > > > > > >     grunt.registerTask('default', ['typescript']);
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > };
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 2:38:54 PM Corneau Damien <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think it can be included if it matches multiple
> conditions:
> > > > > > > > > - Has to be angularjs ready
> > > > > > > > > - Has to be easy to set up (currently we are mainly using
> > > yeoman
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > create
> > > > > > > > > new controllers etc..)
> > > > > > > > > - Has to fit inside of our build and dev Grunt rules
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Not a big fan of adding changes that big just to add the
> var
> > > > types
> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > code, one thing I'm scared is: Will it pop errors
> everywhere
> > > once
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > activated? (because of missing types?)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > IDE support is not that important since you can always tell
> > > your
> > > > > > editor
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > use javascript highlighting and work without
> auto-completion.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Alex B. <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Having types always strike as a good idea to me, thanks
> for
> > > > > > bringing
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > discussion!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Just to understand the ground better: typescript is made
> by
> > > > > > microsoft
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > AFAIK there are other implementations like Flow
> > > > > > > > > > <https://github.com/facebook/flow> from Facebook and
> > > AtScript
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > Google
> > > > > > > > > > (part of Angular, superset of Typescript, brings
> > annotations
> > > > too)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I wonder, should we also consider alignment with angular
> as
> > > an
> > > > > > > > important
> > > > > > > > > > point for whatever alternative we look at?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Kevin (Sangwoo) Kim <
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello developers,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to open a discussion on getting Typescript
> into
> > > > > > zeppelin.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.typescriptlang.org/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Typescript brings type system onto javascript codes,
> > which
> > > > > > improves
> > > > > > > > > > > productivity working with huge js codes.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > One of the really good point of Typescript is, 100%
> > > > > compatibility
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > javascript, that is,
> > > > > > > > > > > if we just change xxx.js into xxx.ts, it just works.
> > > > > > > > > > > Then we can add some classes and type annotation
> > gradually.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Some frontend guys in our company already compared
> > similar
> > > > > > > technology
> > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > coffeescript and finally using Typescript and they are
> > > really
> > > > > > > > > satisfied.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, IDE support could be a limitation of
> > > > > > Typescript.
> > > > > > > > > > > IntelliJ ultimate edition ($199) or Visual Studio can
> be
> > > used
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > utilize
> > > > > > > > > > > full editing feature of Typescript (auto completion,
> etc)
> > > > > > > > > > > I can confirm syntax highlighting feature for
> Typescript
> > > > works
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > Sublime
> > > > > > > > > > > editor.
> > > > > > > > > > > (Of course you can use any editor or IDE to edit ts,
> > > tough.)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any idea on this topic is welcomed!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Eran | CTO
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > --
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > Alexander.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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