@Anthony I found a PR implementing ts angular generator in yeoman project, not very sure it will work or not. https://github.com/yeoman/generator-angular/pull/539 Would you look at it?
@Alex, Yes, tough it seems we have some challenges like code-generating by yeoman as Anthony raised, Many guys are positive on Typescript, I guess it worths to try at least. I guess frontend building script is Alex or Anthony's specialties, can you guys open a branch and let me start work on it? Or I will try modifying build script in case you are busy. Regards, Kevin On Thu Feb 05 2015 at 10:27:05 AM Anthony Corbacho < [email protected]> wrote: > Currently we are using yoman to create angular directive,service etcetc. > basicaly what i do is something like yo angular:directive mydirective, then > yo man will create the directive.js under script directive and also the > directive test and update the index.html and all other stuff. > > Will it be possible to generate in the same way the ts file? if not i am > not favorable for a switch. > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Alex B. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Kevin, Eran, Moon, Damien - thank you for listing a good points about > > tooling, support of the vanila JS and angular! > > > > Through this thread it looks like Zeppelin project is ready to accept > > Typescript contributions, starting with frontend build script update. Is > > that true? > > > > Then we also going to need some docs and examples to quickstart frontend > > development for future contributors to mitigate the issue with knowledge > > transfer that Moon brought. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Kevin (Sangwoo) Kim <[email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > Eran, thanks for great informations! Definitely it would help! > > > > > > Moon, > > > I can agree that the benefit from adopting Typescript is overwhelming > the > > > learning costs. (I guess cost would be quite small enough, it's > simple!) > > > > > > Alex > > > AtScript also seems great, we can discuss it later like Moon said. > > > > > > Facebook Flow, has same purpose to Typescript and has similar > popularity. > > > But Flow will throw error on every line if we don't modify our whole js > > > codes. Also Typescript goes better with Angular js than Flow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 4:38:23 PM IT CTO <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > If I can add my 2 cents here... > > > > AFAIK Palantir has chose typescript for their web version and > developed > > > > some opensource tool to help the process. this include the following: > > > > A linter for the TypeScript language. > > > > An Eclipse plug-in for linting TypeScript code. > > > > A Grunt plugin for tslint. > > > > An Eclipse plug-in for developing in the TypeScript language. > > > > > > > > All of the above available on github at https://github.com/palantir > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > Eran > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:58 AM, moon soo Lee <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > One thing we have to think about is, it'll require current > > contributors > > > > and > > > > > future contributors additional knowledge. ie. Understanding > > Typescript. > > > > > > > > > > So the question from me is, Are the benefits that Typescript > bringing > > > > large > > > > > enough to negate the burden that current+future contributors > > understand > > > > > typescript? > > > > > > > > > > To me, probably yes. I've look through Typescript and i could > > > understand > > > > > quickly and i can see how much it'll be helpful for the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About AtScript, I think it's not widely used compare to Typescript( > > > > > http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=typescript%2C% > > > > 20atscript&cmpt=q&tz= > > > > > ). > > > > > While AtScript is superset of Typescript, I think it's safe to > > discuss > > > > > about using it after we adopt Typescript. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Kevin Kim (Sangwoo) < > > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > @Alex and Damien, > > > > > > Great point! > > > > > > Cannot agree more the new system must go well with Angular js. > > > > > > > > > > > > For Angular js, > > > > > > look at this project: > > > > > > > > https://github.com/borisyankov/DefinitelyTyped/tree/master/angularjs > > > > > > > > > > > > it defines Angular modules into Typescripts. > > > > > > In our company, there are two project using Angular + Typescript > > > using > > > > > > the DefinitelyTyped, > > > > > > maybe I can bring some know-hows on that. > > > > > > > > > > > > @Damien > > > > > > One good point of Typescript is, they will not throw any errors > > when > > > we > > > > > > move onto them. If we have no type on code, it work just like a > > > > > > javascript. (As > > > > > > I already mentioned, it just work if we change xx.js -> xx.ts, > just > > > > > > changing the filename) > > > > > > You can have some simple tutorial on that here. > > > > > > http://www.typescriptlang.org/Tutorial > > > > > > > > > > > > Also building Typescript goes well with Grunt, I'm attaching > build > > > file > > > > > > we're using. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gruntfile.js > > > > > > === > > > > > > module.exports = function(grunt) { > > > > > > > > > > > > // Project configuration. > > > > > > grunt.initConfig({ > > > > > > pkg: grunt.file.readJSON('package.json'), > > > > > > watch : { > > > > > > scripts: { > > > > > > files: ['sticker/static/ts/**/*.ts'], > > > > > > tasks: ['typescript'], > > > > > > options: { > > > > > > spawn: false > > > > > > } > > > > > > } > > > > > > }, > > > > > > typescript: { > > > > > > build: { > > > > > > src : ['sticker/static/ts/**/*.ts'], > > > > > > dest : 'sticker/static/js/', > > > > > > options: { > > > > > > mudule : 'amd', > > > > > > target: 'es3', > > > > > > sourceMap: false, > > > > > > basePath : 'sticker/static/ts' > > > > > > } > > > > > > } > > > > > > } > > > > > > }); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grunt.loadNpmTasks('grunt-typescript'); > > > > > > > > > > > > // Load the plugin that provides the "watch" task. > > > > > > grunt.loadNpmTasks('grunt-contrib-watch'); > > > > > > > > > > > > // Default task(s). > > > > > > grunt.registerTask('default', ['typescript']); > > > > > > > > > > > > }; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 2:38:54 PM Corneau Damien < > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it can be included if it matches multiple conditions: > > > > > > > - Has to be angularjs ready > > > > > > > - Has to be easy to set up (currently we are mainly using > yeoman > > to > > > > > > create > > > > > > > new controllers etc..) > > > > > > > - Has to fit inside of our build and dev Grunt rules > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not a big fan of adding changes that big just to add the var > > types > > > > into > > > > > > the > > > > > > > code, one thing I'm scared is: Will it pop errors everywhere > once > > > > it's > > > > > > > activated? (because of missing types?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IDE support is not that important since you can always tell > your > > > > editor > > > > > > to > > > > > > > use javascript highlighting and work without auto-completion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Alex B. <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having types always strike as a good idea to me, thanks for > > > > bringing > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > discussion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just to understand the ground better: typescript is made by > > > > microsoft > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > AFAIK there are other implementations like Flow > > > > > > > > <https://github.com/facebook/flow> from Facebook and > AtScript > > > from > > > > > > > Google > > > > > > > > (part of Angular, superset of Typescript, brings annotations > > too) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder, should we also consider alignment with angular as > an > > > > > > important > > > > > > > > point for whatever alternative we look at? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Kevin (Sangwoo) Kim < > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello developers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to open a discussion on getting Typescript into > > > > zeppelin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.typescriptlang.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Typescript brings type system onto javascript codes, which > > > > improves > > > > > > > > > productivity working with huge js codes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the really good point of Typescript is, 100% > > > compatibility > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > javascript, that is, > > > > > > > > > if we just change xxx.js into xxx.ts, it just works. > > > > > > > > > Then we can add some classes and type annotation gradually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some frontend guys in our company already compared similar > > > > > technology > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > coffeescript and finally using Typescript and they are > really > > > > > > > satisfied. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, IDE support could be a limitation of > > > > Typescript. > > > > > > > > > IntelliJ ultimate edition ($199) or Visual Studio can be > used > > > to > > > > > > > utilize > > > > > > > > > full editing feature of Typescript (auto completion, etc) > > > > > > > > > I can confirm syntax highlighting feature for Typescript > > works > > > on > > > > > > > Sublime > > > > > > > > > editor. > > > > > > > > > (Of course you can use any editor or IDE to edit ts, > tough.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any idea on this topic is welcomed! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Eran | CTO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Kind regards, > > Alexander. > > >
