Hi Rakesh,

My super late feedback for
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/HowToRelease+using+git
with two minor comments:

* In Branching section, it said:
# create new branch-X.Y from master branch
git checkout -b branch-X.Y master

# commit and push the changes to remote repo
git commit -m "Preparing for release X.Y.Z"
git push <remote> branch-X.Y

I believe the "git commit" step is redundant, because all we do here is to
create a branch from master, and there is nothing to commit (no staged
files.). We could just remove the commit step.

* In Updating release branch section, 2 - it mentions merge patch. I think
the recommended approach (or best practice?) which Edward also pointed out
earlier is to use 'git cherry-pick', so we can have a consistent revision
history between branches.

Thanks for putting up the wiki page!

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <rake...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi PMCs/committers,
>
> It would be great to see feedback on the updated branching release
> procedure mentioned in the cwiki page. How about publishing an initial
> release candidate by following the new procedure, probably you all can
> verify the RC-0 and do voting?
>
> Thanks,
> Rakesh
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <rake...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've tried an attempt by converting all the applicable svn commands to
> git
> > commands in "HowToRelease using git" cwiki page. Welcome comments,
> thanks!
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/
> > HowToRelease+using+git
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rakesh
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Edward Ribeiro <
> edward.ribe...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> ​​
> >> Hi Rakesh,
> >>
> >> I have comment on ZK-2622.
> >>
> >> Took a look at the 'HowToRelease' using git page and have one minor
> >> comment:
> >>
> >> 2. "If not already done, merge desired patches from master into the
> branch
> >> and commit these changes.
> >> (...)
> >> "
> >>
> >> AFAIK merging from master to branch-3.4 would bring all those changes in
> >> master and try to apply them to branch-3.4. This usuallys leads to lots
> of
> >> conflicts and is not desirable. What I usually see in Cassandra commit
> >> history is merging upwards: 2.2 -> 3.0 -> 3.1 -> master so that changes
> in
> >> previous versions are
> >> ​ported​ to
> >>  further releases
> >> ​: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/commits/trunk​
> >>
> >>
> >> So
> >> ​,​
> >> I would rephrase the "merge desired patches from master into branch and
> >> commit those changes" to "cherry-pick desired commits from master into
> >> branch". The act of merging/rebasing/cherry-picking auto commit the
> >> changes
> >> on the target branch. If you want to avoid doing that then have to
> resort
> >> to things like this:
> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8640887/git-merge-
> without-auto-commit
> >>
> >> BUT I AM NOT GIT EXPERT, so I feel free to ignore this suggestion.
> >> ​Further info​
> >>  here:
> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1241720/git-cherry-pick-
> >> vs-merge-workflow
> >>
> >> ​Best regards,
> >> Eddie​
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <
> rake...@apache.org
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks Edward for the interest. I hope you are watching 'HowToRelease'
> >> > using git page discussion, which is still in progress. I'd like to
> give
> >> > some more time to the folks to push their interesting issues(I'd
> prefer
> >> > issues with low risk) until the release procedure is finalized.
> >> >
> >> > I've marked ZOOKEEPER-2622's fix version to 3.4.10, appreciate your
> >> > feedback on the attached pull request so that some of our committers
> >> will
> >> > help in pushing it upstream.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Rakesh
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Edward Ribeiro <
> >> edward.ribe...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > Rakesh and Flavio, what do you think about merging ZOOKEEPER-2622 to
> >> > > branch-3.4 and include it in 3.4.10 besides branch-3.5 and master?
> >> > >
> >> > > Edward
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Flavio Junqueira <f...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Here are a few comments on the proposal of changes to the release
> >> > > process:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - It might be a better idea to preserve the HowToRelease document
> >> for
> >> > > > future reference, clone the document, and change the cloned
> >> document to
> >> > > > reflect the git commands rather than svn.
> >> > > > - We still need to modify Step 2 to be git oriented, otherwise it
> >> will
> >> > > > look odd that we have svn there.
> >> > > > - In Step 4, I thought that we had informally agreed to rely on
> the
> >> git
> >> > > > log rather than maintain the CHANGES.txt file. If we aren't all
> >> onboard
> >> > > > with the idea of stopping to use CHANGES.txt, then we need to
> >> discuss
> >> > > this
> >> > > > separately.
> >> > > > - Steps 5 and 6: I'm not sure why the steps to produce the release
> >> > notes
> >> > > > changes. We still resolve issues on jira which is pretty much the
> >> > source
> >> > > of
> >> > > > data for the release notes.
> >> > > > - Step 10: I personally don't like using "git commit -a" unless
> >> you're
> >> > > > pretty sure that it is what you want. A much safer approach is to
> >> run
> >> > > "git
> >> > > > status" and "git add" to the individual files/directories.
> >> > > > - Step 11: Why are we tagging with -s? Is that standard practice
> in
> >> > other
> >> > > > projects?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -Flavio
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > On 26 Jan 2017, at 03:30, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <
> >> rake...@apache.org>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Agreed, will try to resolve ZK-2184. I have included this to
> >> 3.4.10
> >> > > > > releasing. I could see few open review comments in the PR,
> >> probably
> >> > > will
> >> > > > > push once this is concluded.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > Rakesh
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 2:01 AM, Flavio Junqueira <
> f...@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> I'd like to have ZK-2184 in as well. I have seen many cases in
> >> which
> >> > > > >> applications are affected by that problem. If folks can help me
> >> push
> >> > > it
> >> > > > >> through, I'd appreciate.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> -Flavio
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>> On 25 Jan 2017, at 17:01, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <
> >> rake...@apache.org
> >> > >
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> I've reviewed ZOOKEEPER-2044 pull request and added few
> >> comments. I
> >> > > > hope
> >> > > > >>> this will be committed soon.
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> I'm planning to keep the CHANGE.txt file for this release.
> But,
> >> not
> >> > > > >>> updating the commit history considering that git revision can
> be
> >> > used
> >> > > > as
> >> > > > >> a
> >> > > > >>> reference. Please see my comment https://goo.gl/wu5V2M in
> >> > > > ZOOKEEPER-2672
> >> > > > >>> jira.
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> Sometime back, I've filtered the issues which was marked for
> >> 3.4.10
> >> > > and
> >> > > > >>> moved out these to 3.4.11 release.
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> Thanks,
> >> > > > >>> Rakesh
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Michael Han <
> h...@cloudera.com
> >> >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>>> Hi Rakesh,
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> Thanks for driving 3.4.10 release.
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> I've been looking at https://issues.apache.org/
> >> > > > >> jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-2044
> >> > > > >>>> today I think this could be a good addition to 3.4.10
> release -
> >> > what
> >> > > > do
> >> > > > >> you
> >> > > > >>>> think? Should we get this in 3.4.10?
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <
> >> > > > >> rake...@apache.org>
> >> > > > >>>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> Hi folks,
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> ZOOKEEPER-2573 fix is agreed and will be resolved soon.
> After
> >> > > > >> committing
> >> > > > >>>>> this jira, I'm planning to start cutting a release candidate
> >> > based
> >> > > on
> >> > > > >> my
> >> > > > >>>>> proposed "HowToRelease" ZK cwiki changes.
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> Appreciate feedback on proposed ZK cwiki
> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/
> >> > > > >>>>> confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/HowToRelease changes. Please
> >> refer
> >> > my
> >> > > > >>>>> previous
> >> > > > >>>>> mail to understand more about it.
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> Thanks,
> >> > > > >>>>> Rakesh
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <
> >> > > > >>>> rake...@apache.org
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>> OK. I have modified ZK cwiki page
> https://cwiki.apache.org/
> >> > > > >>>>>> confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/HowToRelease directly. Please
> >> > review
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > >>>>> newly
> >> > > > >>>>>> added lines in orange color to understand the changes. The
> >> > > following
> >> > > > >>>>>> sections has been modified:
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>  - *Updating the release branch -> modified steps **1, 4,
> 10,
> >> > 11*
> >> > > > >>>>>>  - *Building -> modified step 9*
> >> > > > >>>>>>  - *Publishing -> modified step 1*
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>> Thanks,
> >> > > > >>>>>> Rakesh
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Patrick Hunt <
> >> > ph...@apache.org>
> >> > > > >>>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>> Perhaps you can make the changes directly on the wiki page
> >> as a
> >> > > > >>>>> duplicate
> >> > > > >>>>>>> line item under the original in a different color? It's
> hard
> >> > for
> >> > > me
> >> > > > >> to
> >> > > > >>>>>>> really follow, esp as it's not a 1:1 replacement iiuc.
> Could
> >> > you
> >> > > > try
> >> > > > >>>>>>> editing the wiki directly to start with, leave the
> original
> >> > line
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > >>>> add
> >> > > > >>>>>>> the new line(s) but in another color or some other
> >> indication?
> >> > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks Rakesh.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>> Patrick
> >> > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <
> >> > > > >>>>> rake...@apache.org
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> Hi folks,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> As we all know, 3.4.10 release is the first ZooKeeper
> >> release
> >> > > > after
> >> > > > >>>>> the
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> github repository migration. I have tried an attempt to
> >> modify
> >> > > the
> >> > > > >>>>> steps
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> described in the '
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/
> >> > > > HowToRelease'
> >> > > > >>>>>>> page
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> make the release. Since this release is from an already
> >> > created
> >> > > > >>>>> branch,
> >> > > > >>>>>>> I
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> have focused only the branch related parts in cwiki and
> >> below
> >> > > > >>>> sections
> >> > > > >>>>>>> in
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> the page needed changes like,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> *Updating the release branch*
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> 1. Check out the branch with:
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> git clone -b branch-X.Y
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/zookeeper.git
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> 2. I'm skipping this step, which is not required now.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> 4. Update CHANGES.txt with the committed jira details. As
> >> we
> >> > > > follow
> >> > > > >>>> PR
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> merging, most of the jira info is not updated in this
> >> file. I
> >> > > > >>>> believe
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> release manager need to update this file to capture the
> >> jira
> >> > > > details
> >> > > > >>>>>>> marked
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> for that release.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> 10. Commit these changes.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> git commit -a -m "Preparing for release X.Y.Z"
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> git push <remote> <branch>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> 11. Tag the release candidate (R is the release candidate
> >> > > number,
> >> > > > >>>> and
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> starts from 0):
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> git tag -s release-X.Y.Z-rcR -m "ZooKeeper X.Y.Z-rcR
> >> release."
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> Push the newly created rc tag to the remote repo.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> git push <remote> release-X.Y.Z-rcR
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> *Building*
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> 9. Call for a release vote on dev
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>         In the release candidate dev mail format, it
> needs
> >> to
> >> > > > >>>> change
> >> > > > >>>>>>> the
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> tag like,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>         "The RC tag in git to be voted upon:
> >> > release-X.Y.Z-rcR"
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> *Publishing*
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> 1. Tag the release:
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> git tag -s release-X.Y.Z -m "ZooKeeper X.Y.Z release."
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> Push the newly created release tag to the remote repo.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> git push <remote> release-X.Y.Z
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> I'd like to know whether I'm going in the right direction
> >> and
> >> > > > start
> >> > > > >>>>>>> cutting
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> the 3.4.10 release by following this approach. Thanks!
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> Rakesh
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <
> >> > > > >>>>>>> rake...@apache.org
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for pointing this jira. I will take a look at
> this.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>> Rakesh
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Edward Ribeiro <
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> edward.ribe...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Rakesh,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thansk for stepping up to this task! Pretty cool! :)
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Do you think https://issues.apache.org/
> >> > > > >>>> jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-2573
> >> > > > >>>>> is
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> worth
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> targeting 3.4.10 too?
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Edward
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> rake...@apache.org
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I hope to cut an RC in a week - giving some more time
> >> for
> >> > > your
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> favorite
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> outstanding blocker/critical issues. Will start moving
> >> out
> >> > > any
> >> > > > >>>>>>> tickets
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> are not blockers and/or won’t fit the timeline - there
> >> are
> >> > 1
> >> > > > >>>>>>> blocker,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> 5
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> critical, 15 major, 7 minor tickets outstanding as of
> >> now.
> >> > > > >>>>>>> Appreciate
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> your
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> support in releasing 3.4.10 version. Thanks!
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Please find the open issues marked for 3.4.10 release
> >> here,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://goo.gl/XdraFA
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Rakesh
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Rakesh Radhakrishnan <
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> rake...@apache.org>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested in going through the release process
> as
> >> > the
> >> > > > >>>> RM.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Overall, I could see total 41 issues marked for
> 3.4.10
> >> > > > >>>> release
> >> > > > >>>>>>> as of
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> now,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> which includes 4 blockers, 5 critical, 20 major and
> 12
> >> > minor
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> issues. I
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> count 9 issues fixed/committed already for 3.4.10
> which
> >> > > > >>>>> includes
> >> > > > >>>>>>> 1
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> blocker
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and 1 critical(security related) issue.
> ZOOKEEPER-1045
> >> is
> >> > a
> >> > > > >>>>> much
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> awaited
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> one and the feature code is committed. I think it is
> a
> >> > good
> >> > > > >>>>> time
> >> > > > >>>>>>> to
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> initiate the discussion of 3.4.10 release processes.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please find the issues marked for 3.4.10 release
> here,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://goo.gl/FfbpVG
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I'm focusing on updating ZOOKEEPER-1045
> >> feature
> >> > > > >>>>>>> details
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> into
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> our project cwiki and related ZOOKEEPER-2479
> >> improvement
> >> > > > >>>> jira.
> >> > > > >>>>>>> I'd
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> like
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> include ZOOKEEPER-2383 into this release if everyone
> >> > agrees.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Appreciate
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> your help in reviewing the jira patches and making it
> >> > stable
> >> > > > >>>>> for
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> release.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, please feel free to push your favorite issues
> >> ahead
> >> > of
> >> > > > >>>>>>> 3.4.10
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> release.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I hope with the community support, we should be able
> to
> >> > > close
> >> > > > >>>>> all
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> necessary blockers/critical issues soon. Kindly
> >> requesting
> >> > > > >>>>>>> everyone
> >> > > > >>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> look
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> at the issues marked for 3.4.10 and push these asap
> or
> >> can
> >> > > be
> >> > > > >>>>>>> pushed
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> out
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3.4.11.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Imp: Since we moved to github repository, the release
> >> > > > >>>> procedure
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/display/ZOOKEEPER/
> >> > > HowToR
> >> > > > >>>>>>> elease
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> requires changes. Appreciate your help in this part.
> >> > Thanks!
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know your thoughts on the plan.
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Rakesh
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>>> --
> >> > > > >>>> Cheers
> >> > > > >>>> Michael.
> >> > > > >>>>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>



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