On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Robert Vehse wrote:

>> I always thought the whole point of this vote was to get an idea which of the
>> three sets was the most accepted allowing us to go with a particular set and 
>> to
>> then work out the issues we have with this set with its author.
>> 
>> Choosing each icon by itself and thereby mixing different sets might seem the
>> easier solution but it doesn't help Adium's appearance. We are left with an 
>> odd
>> mélange of different styles.
>> 
>> So my proposal would be to choose a set and to improve it. Both George and
>> Bogdan have shown they are responsive and open to suggestions.
> 
> Nobody responded to this (or Paul's email prior to mine) but I'd like to see 
> this put back on the agenda.
> 
> There are two major reasons why I disagree with the selection of icons made 
> by Evan and Zac:
> 
> 1. Icons from all three sets (current, Bogdan's, George's) were chosen which 
> results in Adium looking pretty inconsistent. (Paul elaborated on this in his 
> email from February 27, 2011 - http://markmail.org/message/4cehenuhfiu6z3xm)
> 2. The choice is pretty random and doesn't reflect the results of the vote 
> (http://wixardy.net/adiumIcons/;http://wixardy.net/adiumIcons/pics.php).
> 
> We really, really need to settle on one set and go from there if we want to 
> achieve any kind of consistency.



Looking back over this, I am fine with Bogdan's set overall with a few notable 
exceptions:
 - I dislike using generic people icons instead of the Adiumy outline.  The two 
are equally understandable; the Adiumy outline is Adium personality.
 - I like George's Advanced Prefs icon a lot better for larger display in the 
main preferences
 - I would prefer if pref-personal used an Adiumy outline for consistency
 - The drawing style on pref-defaultclient for Adiumy isn't consistent with his 
appearance elsewhere

I never saw Paul's detailed email. :\

Paul wrote:
> I think some of the updates are a clear improvement, but in some cases there's
> still problems. I've thrown together some quick comparisons to explain this
> better, and to hopefully change your minds on the outcome.
> 
> Events Preferences (Top is present / Bottom is proposed changes):
> http://cl.ly/4t6t

> I really don't get how these weren't deemed as an improvement over the 
> previous.
> The old ones are big images that scale down pretty badly, which in turn end up
> blurred and hard to distinguish what you are actually looking at. The black
> Adiumy on the alert icon could be anything. Contact list icon looks pretty bad
> as well. The old Adiumy is also still present in the application.



I note that the Events section on the voting page is showing them larger than 
they currently appear in Adium, making pixellation worse.  Paul's comparison 
(http://cl.ly/4t6t) is more useful.  I think they are a small step forward.



> 
> 
> Get Info Pane:
> 
> http://cl.ly/4tSs
> 
> Same as the above - blurry icons. The chalkboard icon could say anything and 
> the
> user wouldn't know. The icon, and therefore tab could be for anything. First
> icon should ideally be a contact card, but a better scaled one.

Agreed, though the new gear isn't rendered well, either, at that size.

> 
> 
> Preferences:
> 
> http://cl.ly/4sWe
> 
> This is where the idea of consistency isn't happening. The 'Status' and 
> 'Events'
> icons stand out so easily as belonging somewhere else. The outlines on the
> Status icon are way too high in contrast to stand in line with the other 
> icons,
> and the Events icon is an entirely different style all together.


I can see that.

> 
> 
> Message View: 
> 
> http://cl.ly/4sG8
> 
> Couple of icons which are styled different that could be updated:
> 
> 'Add Contact' (my own icon from years ago!) has a different style of shading
> that doesn't sit well with the other icons
> 'Add Group Chat Bookmark' has an entirely different design style
> 

True.

-Evan

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