100% agreed there. We need our brain back! On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 5:48 PM Matthew <mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just getting an update out in step with Libpurple, removing (adding) > accounts on any abandoned networks, and porting some new prpls to Adium, > would be an upgrade for the people out there still using Adium, which is > non-zero. "Adium is open for business in 2019" is a humble, but necessary > first step. > > Agreed! But I'm guessing that should happen after our current > infrastructure is replaced with something that isn't currently broken > and will be more maintainable. So unless the people ready to do the > work are the ones asking whether it's worth the effort, I'd like to > see our immediate discussion focused on the short term how than the > long(er) term where and why. > > (Not directed at anyone in particular...) > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:17 PM Carlos Morales <mora...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > "Adium is open for business in 2019" is a humble, but necessary first > step. > > > > Definitely! > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2019, at 10:56 PM, Colin Barrett <co...@springsandstruts.com> > wrote: > > > > Lots of good ideas. It will be easier to start to get a critical mass > around them once we've recovered our brain (trac). > > > > Here's my take: Multi-protocol chat is always going to be a compromise > in terms of experience, but I think there's definitely room for our type of > client. New protocols and networks keep proliferating, after all. So we > take it slow. Just getting an update out in step with Libpurple, removing > (adding) accounts on any abandoned networks, and porting some new prpls to > Adium, would be an upgrade for the people out there still using Adium, > which is non-zero. "Adium is open for business in 2019" is a humble, but > necessary first step. > > > > Thoughts? > > -Colin > > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:30 PM Carlos Morales <mora...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Maybe the best way forward is to focus on a protocol that: > >> > >> 1) still has an active and relatively large user base - even if is > just a niche > >> 2) still is fully supported by the underling Libpurple platform, > >> > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > >> > >> > On Jan 18, 2019, at 9:03 PM, Matthew <mathuaerkne...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > > >> > My Adium use is limited to IRC and Skype for Business. Adium still > >> > appears to be the best option for either of these. > >> > > >> > Outside of Adium, my chats happen in SMS/MMS/RCS, Hangouts, Slack, > >> > Discord, Signal, and Keybase. > >> > > >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:27 AM Moses Lei <b...@moseslei.net> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I'm curious as to what services people are using Adium with these > days? I'm not sure if this is a popular opinion, but perhaps we should just > gracefully end Adium development, if our user/developer base has declined > to that point. Like it or not, the days of interoperable protocols seem to > be over, and there are almost no services out there that have an API for > third party clients anymore. > >> >> > >> >> My initial reason to contribute to Adium was because of IRC. I'm a > cloud architect / IT consultant and over the last few years, almost all my > use cases for Adium disappeared. > >> >> > >> >> Personal use cases: > >> >> - Facebook XMPP - deprecated by provider > >> >> - AIM - no friends use anymore > >> >> - Google Talk XMPP - replaced with Hangouts mobile app > >> >> - Yahoo - no friends use anymore > >> >> - Twitter - replaced with mobile app > >> >> > >> >> Business/work use cases: > >> >> - IRC - Replaced with Slack > >> >> - SIPE/Lync - Replaced with Slack in one case, HipChat in another, > firewalled off in a third (so now we have to use the Windows desktop app > via RDS) > >> >> > >> >> So, I have not needed Adium for anything for 4-5 years now (it's not > even installed on my last two machines) and thus have no impetus to work on > it anymore. I'm curious to know if other people have had the same > experience. > >> >> > >> >> Current IM services that I use: > >> >> - SMS > >> >> - iMessage > >> >> - Slack > >> >> - WhatsApp > >> >> - Skype > >> >> - LINE > >> >> - WeChat > >> >> > >> >> As far as I know, there is no support in almost any of these for > third-party clients, so the raison d'etre for an app like Adium is not > fulfillable-- even if we manage to get it onto mobile where it might be > more useful. > >> >> > >> >> Thoughts? > >> >> > >> >> Moses > >> >> > >> >>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 9:06 AM Colin Barrett < > co...@springsandstruts.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi Gary, > >> >>> > >> >>> I've been trying to get our trac instance back online, or at least > recover the dat from it for export. I dropped the ball a bit here, however. > In my defense, life has been getting in the way, not a lack of desire. > >> >>> > >> >>> If anyone thinks they can be particularly helpful with that, please > get in touch with me here or on IRC. > >> >>> > >> >>> -Colin > >> >>> > >> >>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:22 PM Gary Kramlich < > g...@reaperworld.com> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Hey everyone! > >> >>>> > >> >>>> This is Gary Kramlich current lead developer of Pidgin. I'm > reaching out to try and figure out what we can do to get Adium back on it's > feet. I have many ideas and would love to share them with you all. So who > wants to help? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Thanks, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -- > >> >>>> Gary Kramlich <g...@reaperworld.com> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Matthew > >> > > >> > >> > > > -- > > Matthew > >
