s/do want/do NOT want 

    On Saturday, December 9, 2017 1:21 PM, Philip Kovacs <pkde...@yahoo.com> 
wrote:
 

 I am opposed to allowing PP unfettered access to projects in which the 
maintainer(s) are responsive.  It's common for developers to have artistic 
(volatile) temperaments , like a painter who paints on canvas owned by someone 
else.  Does the owner have the right to change the color jars?  Perhaps.  Does 
the  owner have the right to look at the painting and say "I don't like the way 
you painted that tree.  I'm going to change it."  Absolutely not.
Perhaps add a project setting that allows package maintainers to configure how 
PP changes can be made, by direct commit, by pull request, etc.  That would 
allow maintainerswho are more "involved" with their packages to have more 
control.   It's a common management problem.  People who have taken on 
responsibility must also have control to the extent to which system allows.  
You certainly do want to drive good people away..  

    On Saturday, December 9, 2017 5:06 AM, Matthias Runge 
<mru...@matthias-runge.de> wrote:
 

 On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 08:30:20PM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote:
> Now this has gone back and forth. The system worked more or less ok.
> Maybe it is more about the changes (and communication) of a
> specific provenpackager?

After sleeping a night over this, I should have put it in different
words:

My questionis are here:
- do we have an issue at all?
- do we have an issue with a single provenpacker
- do we have an issue of attitude or with a group of people?

The consensus of this long thread was: no, the system works mostly ok.
That makes me believe, we don't have a generic issue.

It's not my intention to blame anyone here, I'm still assuming best
intentions.

Nevertheless, since people are different, and not everybody can be
friends with each other, maybe it's a good idea to make communication
mandatory, in cases where proven packagers touch others packages? For
mass changes, there is/should always be an announcement to the
devel mailing list.

Matthias
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Matthias Runge <mru...@matthias-runge.de>
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