You already have a solution. Use the solution you have. Fedora will not change to cater to this particular need. Your opinions does not dictate what Fedora should/shouldn't do.
Your rants and all caps won't make anything change. Please try to deal with it and move on from this rather dead thread. Br M On 23 September 2019 20:38:13 CEST, Ty Young <youngty1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On 9/23/19 10:00 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 9:50 am, Michael Catanzaro >> <mcatanz...@gnome.org> wrote: >>> You're wasting your time. We're not going to run the X server as >root >>> just so you can overclock your GPU. Not a chance. >> > >It isn't just to overclock my GPU, you're *BREAKING PEOPLE'S SOFTWARE, >EVEN IF THEY ARE FLATPAK*. The whole point of Flatpak for an end user >is >cross-distro compatibility! > > >> Anyway, while we won't do that Fedora... since you're clearly >> interested in customizing your system, you can do so for yourself. >> What you want to do is build gdm using the configure flag >> --disable-user-display-server. You can host your special gdm in a >copr >> if you want to make it easier for other Nvidia overclockers to use >it. > > >This is entirely unnecessary. You can enable root X. Org via the config > >option. A random user's COPR repo isn't a whole lot safer. > > >> >> See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/XorgWithoutRootRights for >> why this was changed (over five years ago!). The changes were made >> upstream, so there is nothing Fedora-specific here. If you use GNOME >> on most other distros, you should see the same behavior. > > >Five years ago and yet no other DE besides Gnome supports it. Five >years >and many distros that even use Gnome don't even have it enabled by >default. Five years and Fedora has done nothing to make other DEs >support it despite the fact that Fedora is the only one that actually >wants the change to begin with. > > >Lets *actually read* that link, shall we? > > > >The user experience will be unchanged > > >This is a blatant lie. Breaking people's software absolutely impacts >the >user experience. > > >>Desktop product: gdm, Ray Strode is working on this: ? > >>KDE spin: ? > > >XFCE spin: ? > > >LXDE spin: ? > > >Look at that broad DE support. It's *almost* like no one cares or wants > >this, even after 5 years! There are still open bug reports on multiple >distros/DEs that haven't been worked on or updated in years. > > > >Having the xserver not run as root reduces Fedora's attack surface. > > >...which few other Linux distro cares about and is seemingly just a >boogeyman used to fearmonger since no one can pin point actual >malicious >software that takes advantage of it to begin with. > > >If you're so afraid of the X. Org as root boogeyman then oh boy, allow >me to turn it up a notch by telling you just *some* of the things >possible with basic *user* account permissions. You can: > > >-reboot/shutdown > > >-silently lockup the system by spawning too many threads > > >-hard lock the system by passing allowed but unsupported values > > >-fill up memory, resulting in HDD thrashing and potentially killing >your SSD > > >-create other processes(pop up windows) > > >-kill other processes > > >-upload all your files in your home directory to a personal private >server > > >-delete all your files in your home directory > > >-encrypt all your files in your home directory. > > >...among a whole lot else I'm probably forgetting. > > >Point is, at some point you need to let the security crap go. No one >else cares besides Fedora and Gnome. > > > >> The only distro I know of that uses --disable-user-display-server is >> Endless. >> >> Michael >> >> _______________________________________________ >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> >https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
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