On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 11:56:13AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 4:54 pm, David Sommerseth <d...@eurephia.org> wrote:
> > Yes, TLSv1.3 with encrypted SNI will help to some degree, but still
> > there IP
> > addresses you connect to will still provide meta data which can be used
> > to
> > profile you and give an indication of what kind of sites you visit.
> 
> Well that's the whole point right there. In combination with ESNI, it's no
> longer possible to tell which domain you are visiting on a particular vhost.
> It's not perfect, but that's still tremendously better than nothing. It is
> why Mozilla and EFF are strongly promoting DoH.

On the one hand, thats great and good. On the other hand, all your DoH
is going to a single provider, bypassing everything else. 

In any case, I will note here that firefox in Fedora is not going to
enable DoH like upstream firefox. I don't know about chromium. 

I think for DoH to really be useful, it needs to be in widespread use in
all the various providers/ISPs. Hopefully that happens. 

kevin

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