On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 4:07 PM Luca Boccassi <bl...@debian.org> wrote: > > > Dne 27. 10. 21 v 21:35 Luca Boccassi napsal(a): > > > > In repository in general (can be deb, zypper, local directory). Even the > > offline systems > > have some repository where they > > get the packages from. > > > > Miroslav > > How do you know which one is it then? You have a core file from a container > long gone. Do you use dnf? zypper? apt? To which repository do you point them > to? Did it even have one? > And even if you have all the information, which is far from certain, what if > what's crashing is what allows you to contact the remote service in the first > place and all that's working is a serial console? This might not be what you > personally face daily, but it's what many others do. > > With the current system everything needs to align just right. Most often it's > true and it works beautifully, but not always. In many deployments the > requirements directly forbid some of the needed pieces. What we are trying to > do is make sure the bare minimum you get in a core file is usable and > actionable even when everything has gone horribly wrong, because that's when > you need it the most. For a ~200 bytes per binary cost, which in other > situations like for example changing compiler version/flags would be > perceived as being negligible.
For what it's worth, I don't like this idea at all. I've objected to it plenty when it was being devised in systemd upstream. However, it exists, and I know vendors do bad/unreasonable things all the time, and it'd be nice to have some automatic ways to introspect content when vendors do stupid things. I'm fine with it even though I think it's not a very good idea. It's not a lot of extra stuff and it (hopefully) won't regularly break when the compiler is upgraded like annobin does. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
