On 4/21/23 04:24, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> said:
>> I am proposing that over the course of 2023, starting with the Changes
>> process, we move Fedora development conversations from this mailing list to
>> the Discourse-based Fedora Discussion.
> 
> I feel this is a case of trading one group of people (email list users)
> for a different group of people (web forum users).  I have seen this
> done multiple times over the years, tried to follow a few times, and
> always dropped off fairly rapidly.  I'm solidly in the "email list
> users" group.
Discourse is very nice.  It is open source, uses a reasonable license
[0] (though [1] would be better), and is great for casual interactions
that maybe spread out over time.  Would highly recommend it for moderate
size community discussion.

However, it doesn't seem like we can hack on it to better suite
community needs, for example to have the same functionality as mailing
lists[2].  It is not standards driven and is primarily developed by one
company - something that follows Apache way[3] or has a community
governance process would be better in the long term for a large project
with many contributors who have technical expertise.

Email clients offer significant customizability that a one size fits all
web interface cannot provide.  Mailing list mode for Discourse is
helpful, but not at the same level as email lists, where once one has
gained sufficient knowledge, interaction can be done from the comfort of
the client of your choice. As such, simply adopting it because it can be
deployed may leave out many contributors, in particular those who drive
development forward.  Mailing lists are not perfect, but it is not clear
Discourse is a good replacement for the devel list.

0) https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/main/LICENSE.txt
1) https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html
2)
https://discourse.cmake.org/t/cmake-discourse-mailing-list-mode-incorrectly-personally-addresses-all-email/738
3) https://apache.org/theapacheway/
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