On 2026-09-27 5:26 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
"Decoupling applications from Rawhide" like this means they would only
be available from "alternative" deliverables such as container images
but not as generic user-facing RPM packages.


Yes. Integration work is necessary for an OS, but I think the costs vastly outweigh the benefits for many applications. Everything that is added to Rawhide increases the amount of friction faced by components in Rawhide. Every new package makes Rawhide harder to maintain.

If we shipped some applications as containers instead, they would be free to use newer dependencies than the rest of the distribution. And, we could ship them without making Rawhide harder to maintain. We may even discover that moving some applications out of Rawhide and into containers allows us to improve Rawhide's security posture, and narrow the scope of outdated packages that exists today. I think investigating that possibility would be a very good investment.


At this point, work that would not benefit generic users but only
consumers of these container images...


Lots of things we do in Fedora only benefit the users who choose to use those things. We don't try to stop work on image-mode systems because that work doesn't improve package-mode systems. Can you rephrase what you're trying to say?

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