On Nov 17, 2011, at 7:45 AM, TERRY DONTJE wrote:

> I could possibly buy your argument Ralph if this was a one off BTL that only 
> Nathan (and his employer) is going to use.  I am assuming though this is a 
> more general protocol for a vendor specific protocol.  Thus it seems that a 
> sane naming of the BTL is within the realm of the community.

Guess I disagree - I would hate to get to a stage where we all have to pass 
every name thru a group approval process.

> 
> That being said, I think I would agree that Jeff should have passed this by 
> Nathan first before posting the RFC (which for all I know he has)

That was my point, really, and an RFC was not required - if Nathan wants to 
change it, he can certainly do so.

> just in case there is some background that would convince Jeff that vader is 
> appropriate.

Regardless of whether or not it convinced Jeff, it remains Nathan's decision, 
IMO. I very much doubt Jeff wants to be in the position of "naming overlord", 
nor do I get the impression he was suggesting such a thing.


> 
> --td
> 
> On 11/17/2011 9:29 AM, Ralph Castain wrote:
>> 
>> Frankly, the only vote that counts is Nathan's - it's his btl, and we have 
>> never forcibly made someone rename their component. I would suggest we not 
>> set that precedent. I'm comfortable with whatever he decides to call it.
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 7:00 AM, TERRY DONTJE wrote:
>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Isn't there precedent with the other BTLs to name them based on the 
>>> messaging protocol they are supporting instead of some movie character 
>>> (tcp, openib, shmem, portals, ...).
>>> 
>>> --td
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2011 8:11 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> After having to explain to someone at SC for the umpteenth time this week 
>>>> that the "vader" BTL uses the XPMEM transport under the covers, I'd like 
>>>> to put forth an appeal to rename the "vader" BTL to be "xpmem."
>>>> 
>>>> Here's my rationale for why:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Although we have a history of Star Wars-related names, the "ob1" and 
>>>> "r2" components got their names because they're mainly algorithms that 
>>>> have no obvious name that describes what they do.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. All other components that tie into some back-end system are named 
>>>> reflecting the back-end system (e.g., tcp, mx, portals, ...etc.).  
>>>> "openib" is the weakest example, but we all know that it was named way 
>>>> back when OFED was named "OpenIB", and the name has kinda stuck.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. The BTL name "xpmem" follows the law of least astonishment from the 
>>>> user's perspective.
>>>> 
>>>> 4. Cute names rarely seem so after 6 months.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll even volunteer to do the work to rename it (a bunch of file moves and 
>>>> global search-and-replaces).
>>>> 
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