2012/9/14 Fabio Erculiani <lx...@sabayon.org>:
> Hello?! The solution is to enable KMS by default. Do you want it? Then
> forget about fglrx as default.
> Hello!? (Knock knock!)

No problem, then make them work. Do you understand S10 images do not
work with any AMD card?

> Have you provided logs? No. Did other users (Joost) reported issues? No.

I attached cookbug wherever possible. If live system reboots before
even loading X and interactive mode does not work, it's hard really
hard for me to provide them.

> From a driver/software standpoint, fglrx is fine and implemented
> correctly (Joost did test it).

I only ran those test series you know before leaving for Lyon, and I
got back yesterday night. For me fglrx appeared to be correctly
configured, but the same hardware that works perfectly with mainline
was not able to boot with the iso.

> As I said, go buy real hardware next time, not bricks.
> Not my problem, file bugs upstream.

Tell the same to every AMD user, then. If you want to provide a distro
with AMD support, it's up to you (us) to find decent configuration and
test it. Otherwise, let's just state that we only support Intel and
nVidia.

> Once I will enable KMS for radeon by default in Linux 3.6, this won't
> be possible out of the box, and the user would need to provide
> "nomodeset" boot option in order to have fglrx working and loaded.
> We don't force kernel upgrades on users so this will be fine and a
> notice will be issued in any case once 3.6 is in main repos.

That is fine. My concern is about hardware NOT loading X when using
the live. I'm not asking for miracles, but just for releasing thing
when we're sure they work as we expect.

> Can you understand the problem? I'm not sure you are (knock knock?).

I am, do you understand what's my point instead?

> Tell your friends to buy real hardware next time (Intel and NVIDIA are
> both great).

False, nVidia on a notebook is a pain (Optimus). Moreover, normally
people just buy random things, most of them do not even know what kind
of graphics they do have. Try to be open minded.

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