On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:28 PM <mailfrom-openzfs.topicbox....@kopka.net>
wrote:

>
> A thing that dosn't exist *can not* be used for anything - even with
> humans in existance who choose to *believe* otherwise.
>
> Looking at the topic of perpetual motion machines should make this quite
> obvious, stating that these dont't exist does in no way imply that there
> are no misguided humans who believe otherwise. The exact same applies to
> "there is no such thing as race".
>
> Stating discrimination based on 'race' *being possible *implies that
> 'race' exists, effectively bootstrapping a false idea into existance.
>

I think part of the problem is that we are working with different ideas of
what "race" means.  I think that "race" to you means "a classification of
people based on genetics", which we agree is not actually a thing. To me,
"race" is a cultural construct - an invented labeling of people not based
in any legitimate biological science.  We agree that it's bad to
discriminate based on either genetics or an invented grouping of people.

What would you think if the CoC said something like, "Racism has no place
in our community.  We strive to create a space that encourages
participation regardless of gender identity and expression, physical
appearance, ethnicity,  ... [race not listed here]. " ?

--matt

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