Tim

Can you point me to a URL so I can get an idea of how it works.

Actually, had a look at Sheffield Council, and it's going to be a tricky 
one to deal with -- there doesn't even seem to be a list of all 
councillors (let allow UID for each councillor). I agree there's a real 
need to get councils to open up data, but when you look at some of the 
the websites, it's clear they don't have a clue (and maybe don't want to 
have one). My hope is that if we can get most of the main councils 
available through something like theyworkforyoulocal, locals can start
to pressure the others into doing something.

Cheers
C

Tim Duckett wrote:
> This is interesting - there's a small group of us doing something 
> similar with (or should that be *to*?) Sheffield City Council, and 
> it's a nightmare.  Where meeting minutes exist online they're 
> published as Word docs, and they're written in a "narrative" style - 
> for all its faults, Hansard is a world away from local government when 
> it comes to scrapeable transparency.   So far we've been working on 
> indexing the docs and presenting that content alongside search results 
> from the main SCC site.  It's not TWFY, but at least it provides a 
> better way of exposing individual activity that would otherwise be 
> buried away in documents.
>
> Does anyone have any experience of managing to persuade LAs towards 
> presenting the source information in more usable formats?
>
> On 16 Jun 2009, at 14:14, CountCulture wrote:
>
>> Quick note about something I've been working on in my spare time:
>>
>> http://theyworkforyoulocal.com -- a small app to scrape and parse local
>> authority info.
>>
>> At the moment, it's barely more than a proof of concept, with only about
>> 20 or so councils parsed, and even then only current councillors,
>> committees, committee membership and forthcoming meetings are parsed.
>>
>> On the upside, it's fairly quick for me to add new parsers for councils
>> (and reuse ones already written if they use same CMS), there's an API
>> built in (basically just add .json or .xml to get the info as json or
>> XML), and there's lots of potential.
>>
>> Getting this far has also been an education in understanding what a
>> full-blown twfy_local might look like (in general there seems no way to
>> see how councillors voted, for example), the need for such a resource
>> (there's no publicly available central repository for council election
>> results, for example), and the sorry state of local authority websites
>> (just finding a list of councillors is a challenge on some, and don't
>> get me started on the HTML markup).
>>
>> Comments welcome. Code is at
>> http://github.com/CountCulture/twfy_local_parser/ (I'll probably GPL it
>> soon). Bug reports at
>> http://github.com/CountCulture/twfy_local_parser/issues and offers of
>> help to countculture at googlemail dot com.
>>
>> I'd especially be interested in hearing from anyone who's got any
>> knowledge about local authority CMSs (e.g. there seem to be several
>> different versions of Modern.Gov producing different URLs), or sources
>> for more data other than the local authority websites (e.g. eGR,
>> info4local).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> C
>>
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