Couldn't the basics be done on a wikipeida model with a bod per council...
Doesn't 'write to them' do it manually for councillors?

Paul /)/+)

2009/6/17 CountCulture <[email protected]>

> Tim
>
> Can you point me to a URL so I can get an idea of how it works.
>
> Actually, had a look at Sheffield Council, and it's going to be a tricky
> one to deal with -- there doesn't even seem to be a list of all
> councillors (let allow UID for each councillor). I agree there's a real
> need to get councils to open up data, but when you look at some of the
> the websites, it's clear they don't have a clue (and maybe don't want to
> have one). My hope is that if we can get most of the main councils
> available through something like theyworkforyoulocal, locals can start
> to pressure the others into doing something.
>
> Cheers
> C
>
> Tim Duckett wrote:
> > This is interesting - there's a small group of us doing something
> > similar with (or should that be *to*?) Sheffield City Council, and
> > it's a nightmare.  Where meeting minutes exist online they're
> > published as Word docs, and they're written in a "narrative" style -
> > for all its faults, Hansard is a world away from local government when
> > it comes to scrapeable transparency.   So far we've been working on
> > indexing the docs and presenting that content alongside search results
> > from the main SCC site.  It's not TWFY, but at least it provides a
> > better way of exposing individual activity that would otherwise be
> > buried away in documents.
> >
> > Does anyone have any experience of managing to persuade LAs towards
> > presenting the source information in more usable formats?
> >
> > On 16 Jun 2009, at 14:14, CountCulture wrote:
> >
> >> Quick note about something I've been working on in my spare time:
> >>
> >> http://theyworkforyoulocal.com -- a small app to scrape and parse local
> >> authority info.
> >>
> >> At the moment, it's barely more than a proof of concept, with only about
> >> 20 or so councils parsed, and even then only current councillors,
> >> committees, committee membership and forthcoming meetings are parsed.
> >>
> >> On the upside, it's fairly quick for me to add new parsers for councils
> >> (and reuse ones already written if they use same CMS), there's an API
> >> built in (basically just add .json or .xml to get the info as json or
> >> XML), and there's lots of potential.
> >>
> >> Getting this far has also been an education in understanding what a
> >> full-blown twfy_local might look like (in general there seems no way to
> >> see how councillors voted, for example), the need for such a resource
> >> (there's no publicly available central repository for council election
> >> results, for example), and the sorry state of local authority websites
> >> (just finding a list of councillors is a challenge on some, and don't
> >> get me started on the HTML markup).
> >>
> >> Comments welcome. Code is at
> >> http://github.com/CountCulture/twfy_local_parser/ (I'll probably GPL it
> >> soon). Bug reports at
> >> http://github.com/CountCulture/twfy_local_parser/issues and offers of
> >> help to countculture at googlemail dot com.
> >>
> >> I'd especially be interested in hearing from anyone who's got any
> >> knowledge about local authority CMSs (e.g. there seem to be several
> >> different versions of Modern.Gov producing different URLs), or sources
> >> for more data other than the local authority websites (e.g. eGR,
> >> info4local).
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> C
> >>
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