Hi Joe,

I'll do a grey scale tonight.
I've still got to create a layer marking top / bottom list - if i
make a rough one you can work from that can't you? It'll be just
used a reference for you.
And major cities...
What format was most usable? pdf?

I would support the loss of the key. It's not scientific.

:-)

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:59 +0100, "Joe Lanman" <[email protected]>
wrote:

Glad you like the direction, can't really claim the colours -
theyre based on what I got from Andrew.



Andrew - Sorry to be a pain, but could I get the pix-map one more
time, but with the range from black to white? (Doesn't matter
which is which) If I had that I could really fine-tune the
colours.



I'm not sure about losing the key - I see your point about the
'scientificness' or otherwise, but the data does show something,
and without a key there's nothing to show what means what.



On Francis' naming point - should 'Great Britain' include
Northern Ireland? Or is that wrong?



I'll play with the design based on your feedback Tom, and send
some more designs to the list.



Any ideas on what other info to add? Some major cities? I've been
looking for vector maps of national parks but no joy - I thought
they might be nice to add.



Joe



2009/9/22 Tom Steinberg <[1][email protected]>

  Actualy, to contradict myself, I do think those contours are
  pretty cool, too :) Would be nice to see the same data with
  different smoothness levels of those contours.
  best,
  Tom

2009/9/22 Tom Steinberg <[2][email protected]>

  Hi Joe,
  I like your choice of land colours, from previous experience
  we know that choosing good contour colours is a nightmare!
  Remember the map is going to be really big and high
  resolution. This means that I think that squares (not pixels)
  with sharp sides will actually look quite good.
  Other things to say are:
  1. The map should fill up much more of the page, I feel.
  2. The sea should still be darker, IMO. Even black, possibly.
  3. I think the typography needs to be ultra modern, with no
  background box for the key or the title.
  For a title, how about something a little cold and
  businesslike:
  "A Crowdsourced Scenicness Map of Great Britain: 1,148,009
  votes on the scenicness of 191,568 different photos, each
  taken in a unique 1-by-1 kilometre square"
  "Keep improving this map - Play at [3]scenic.mysociety.org"
  I'm actually not even sure it needs any key, necessarily
  (mapping herecy, I know, but it might make the point about it
  not being scientific).
  best,
  Tom

2009/9/20 Joe Lanman <[4][email protected]>

Thanks for that - I've attached a version I'm playing with



I've smoothed and posterised the heatmap - as it was fairly low
resolution and looked a bit pixelly - this effect means we can
make something much higher resolution (eg for print) without it
pixelising.



apart from that I've just added a title, a gradient background
(globe-esque?) and a key.. what do people think? Right direction?
When you say a bit of fun, is this going to be publicly
available?



Joe





2009/9/20 Andrew Bailey <[5][email protected]>

As requested, a green to grey theme with a darker sea colour. I
perfer the first version myself as large areas such as the sea
mask are easier on the eye.

I've chucked out all available formats in the software, sorry -
no png. We've got ps, pdf, emf and ai.

[6]http://www.planetnomad.com/dump/Green_to_DGrey_Layout.pdf
[7]http://www.planetnomad.com/dump/DGreen_to_LGrey_Layout.pdf

just change the extension to download the other files.

I imagine there's further tweaks on the colour still to do but
it's probably easier if suggestions include rgb values. I'll work
on pinpointing some top 10 / bottom 10 and some city names.

I think we've got to consider the poster as an asthetic bit of
fun only - you shouldn't read too much into the results.

Andy

On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:37 +0100, "Joe Lanman" <[8][email protected]>
wrote:

I'd be very happy to help out on this!



I agree that green to gray could be a nicer colour theme - can we
get a version like that? I can try messing with colour channels,
but it would be easier to do it from source.



On that note - it would be great to get the image as something
other than pdf - a vector format like eps or high resolution
bitmap (png) would be great.



Just a general question - what is the end goal for this project?
Eg. an A3 poster to sell on the MySociety site? Is it purely
promotional (aesthetic), or more of a straight informatic
(accurate and useful)?



Joe



2009/9/18 Andrew Bailey <[9][email protected]>

  will do.
  On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:42 +0100, "Timothy Green"
  <[10][email protected]>
  wrote:

> Great start. To agree with Tom, I think a colour scheme of grey
to green
> might work better in terms of readability, green of course
being "hot"
> and grey "not". The grid is a bit distracting and doesn't seem
to add
> anything.
>
> As you seem to suggest, I think photos around the edge,
pointing to
> various diverse scenic areas would work - as are a few major
towns and
> perhaps national parks (though maybe the point of SON is more a
focus on
> town prettiness than wilderness?)
>
> -t
>
> Tom Steinberg wrote:
> > If I could suggest priorities they would be:
> >
> > 1. Finding a slightly nicer basic colour scale, from 'hot' to
'not',
> > and a complementary sea colour. This is the most important
decision
> > for making the graphic sing I think. Quite a dark colour for
the sea
> > would be best, I feel.
> >
> > 2. A nice big title along the top
> >
> > 3. Overlaid place names, but not so many it blots out the
information
> > the map contains.
> >
> > Once it has those basic things, it might be 'done', but if it
isn't,
> > those are the basis for working out what optional extras to
add.
> >
> > Joe - is this something you could help with, given your ninja
logo skills?
> >
> > best,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
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