the pdf was fine in the end thanks- not sure what you mean by the top/bottom layer? Marking the co-ords of the best/worst places?
I just dont see how people are going to understand what the graphic even implies without a key? They could figure it out from context, in which case why not have the key up-front? It could be much lower priority than I've given it.. I'm going to experiment with a less naturalistic, more graphical look - people I've shown it to just think its a terrain map - the scenic areas correlate pretty well to altitude :) 2009/9/22 Andrew Bailey <[email protected]> > Hi Joe, > > I'll do a grey scale tonight. > I've still got to create a layer marking top / bottom list - if i make a > rough one you can work from that can't you? It'll be just used a reference > for you. > And major cities... > What format was most usable? pdf? > > I would support the loss of the key. It's not scientific. > > :-) > > On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:59 +0100, "Joe Lanman" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Glad you like the direction, can't really claim the colours - theyre based > on what I got from Andrew. > > Andrew - Sorry to be a pain, but could I get the pix-map one more time, but > with the range from black to white? (Doesn't matter which is which) If I had > that I could really fine-tune the colours. > > I'm not sure about losing the key - I see your point about the > 'scientificness' or otherwise, but the data does show something, and without > a key there's nothing to show what means what. > > On Francis' naming point - should 'Great Britain' include Northern Ireland? > Or is that wrong? > > I'll play with the design based on your feedback Tom, and send some more > designs to the list. > > Any ideas on what other info to add? Some major cities? I've been looking > for vector maps of national parks but no joy - I thought they might be nice > to add. > > Joe > > > 2009/9/22 Tom Steinberg <[email protected]> > > Actualy, to contradict myself, I do think those contours are pretty cool, > too :) Would be nice to see the same data with different smoothness levels > of those contours. > > best, > > Tom > > 2009/9/22 Tom Steinberg <[email protected]> > > Hi Joe, > > I like your choice of land colours, from previous experience we know that > choosing good contour colours is a nightmare! > > Remember the map is going to be really big and high resolution. This means > that I think that squares (not pixels) with sharp sides will actually look > quite good. > > Other things to say are: > > 1. The map should fill up much more of the page, I feel. > > 2. The sea should still be darker, IMO. Even black, possibly. > > 3. I think the typography needs to be ultra modern, with no background box > for the key or the title. > > For a title, how about something a little cold and businesslike: > > "A Crowdsourced Scenicness Map of Great Britain: 1,148,009 votes on the > scenicness of 191,568 different photos, each taken in a unique 1-by-1 > kilometre square" > > "Keep improving this map - Play at scenic.mysociety.org" > > I'm actually not even sure it needs any key, necessarily (mapping herecy, I > know, but it might make the point about it not being scientific). > > best, > > Tom > > > > > > > 2009/9/20 Joe Lanman <[email protected]> > > Thanks for that - I've attached a version I'm playing with > > I've smoothed and posterised the heatmap - as it was fairly low resolution > and looked a bit pixelly - this effect means we can make something much > higher resolution (eg for print) without it pixelising. > > apart from that I've just added a title, a gradient background > (globe-esque?) and a key.. what do people think? Right direction? When you > say a bit of fun, is this going to be publicly available? > > Joe > > > > 2009/9/20 Andrew Bailey <[email protected]> > > As requested, a green to grey theme with a darker sea colour. I perfer > the first version myself as large areas such as the sea mask are easier on > the eye. > > I've chucked out all available formats in the software, sorry - no png. > We've got ps, pdf, emf and ai. > > http://www.planetnomad.com/dump/Green_to_DGrey_Layout.pdf > http://www.planetnomad.com/dump/DGreen_to_LGrey_Layout.pdf > > just change the extension to download the other files. > > I imagine there's further tweaks on the colour still to do but it's > probably easier if suggestions include rgb values. I'll work on pinpointing > some top 10 / bottom 10 and some city names. > > I think we've got to consider the poster as an asthetic bit of fun only - > you shouldn't read too much into the results. > > Andy > > On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:37 +0100, "Joe Lanman" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'd be very happy to help out on this! > > I agree that green to gray could be a nicer colour theme - can we get a > version like that? I can try messing with colour channels, but it would be > easier to do it from source. > > On that note - it would be great to get the image as something other than > pdf - a vector format like eps or high resolution bitmap (png) would be > great. > > Just a general question - what is the end goal for this project? Eg. an A3 > poster to sell on the MySociety site? Is it purely promotional (aesthetic), > or more of a straight informatic (accurate and useful)? > > Joe > > > 2009/9/18 Andrew Bailey <[email protected]> > > will do. > > On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:42 +0100, "Timothy Green" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Great start. To agree with Tom, I think a colour scheme of grey to > green > > might work better in terms of readability, green of course being "hot" > > and grey "not". The grid is a bit distracting and doesn't seem to add > > anything. > > > > As you seem to suggest, I think photos around the edge, pointing to > > various diverse scenic areas would work - as are a few major towns and > > perhaps national parks (though maybe the point of SON is more a focus on > > town prettiness than wilderness?) > > > > -t > > > > Tom Steinberg wrote: > > > If I could suggest priorities they would be: > > > > > > 1. Finding a slightly nicer basic colour scale, from 'hot' to 'not', > > > and a complementary sea colour. This is the most important decision > > > for making the graphic sing I think. Quite a dark colour for the sea > > > would be best, I feel. > > > > > > 2. A nice big title along the top > > > > > > 3. Overlaid place names, but not so many it blots out the information > > > the map contains. > > > > > > Once it has those basic things, it might be 'done', but if it isn't, > > > those are the basis for working out what optional extras to add. > > > > > > Joe - is this something you could help with, given your ninja logo > skills? > > > > > > best, > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list [email protected] > > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > > > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list [email protected] > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > > > > > -- > > http://formd.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list [email protected] > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > > > > > -- > > http://formd.net > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list [email protected] > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list [email protected] > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > > > > > -- > > http://formd.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list [email protected] > Archive, settings, or unsubscribe: > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > -- http://formd.net
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