On May 25, 2006, at 9:32 PM, André van Toly wrote:


Op 25-mei-2006, om 21:24 heeft Daniel Ockeloen het volgende geschreven:

reposted it myself since i made even more language mistakes the normal sorry :)
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Now your proposal's main point is we might not be able to share frameworksn based on these 2 models and we might not even implement the components made for these frameworks in the same way but by adding a few interface concepts we can atleast demand they are shareable and if we make them configurable very useable in all the frameworks.

Is this a fair view ?

No, i don't think so. Yes, we aim to be able to develop components which as well can be used as portlets or just jsp snippets of code in templates. But no, it is not ment to exclude 'ways' of developings websites. It aims at being a framework that can be used in several mmbase repository, cms implementations or frameworks: leo cms, kennisnet, patmos, just jps templates, you name it.

---André

Maybe its a naming issue what i mean to say is that we will probably have multiple frameworks (or whatever we call them) called Didactor, karma (cmsc?), coppa, leocms, pathos that can all use the same components but that the way they are implemented can differ and match the frameworks itself.

My main point and question is it correct that there are 2 ways that people see and want to use mmbase. And both want a framework i think its not just a issue of excluding (you can allways keep doing what you allways have done) but the tools vs builders view. Also personally i don't anyone can continue the way we have not because we will stop you from doing it but using the principles we hope client and partners will start to demand that your extentions follow the component rules and will run in any of the frameworks.

Daniel.


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