On May 26, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Nico Klasens wrote:
Hello Daniel,
Hai,
You can't make make a hard line between 2 groups of mmbase users (I
am not talking about users which work with application build on
MMbase). You can only divide users based on technical skill level.
On one side are users who work/change/rewrite taglib pages or add
javascript, flash or other parts. On the other end there are users
who are working for companies like Finalist. Most of the MMbase
users are somewhere between these ends.
The end with less technical skills is covered by MMbase, but there
are still some wishes from the point where I am standing. The
proposal grants some of my wishes. It is not an xor situation where
we have to take away something from the other side to fulfill my
wishes. What makes thier life easier applies for me too.
Didactor shows how some of my wishes could be granted. This is what
is in the proposal.
The proposal also address the issue with exisitng templating
mechanisms currently in use and how to support them all. I don't
think all users will going to use one templating mechanism
Everyone will choose his templating mechanism based on his
technical skill level and what is comfortable for him. MMbase only
has to provide an infrastructure where all technical skill levels
can do their thing. It will actually be much easier to meet
customer requirements when you can choose between templating
mechanisms. A lot of projects at Finalist will probably use the
portlet templating mechanism, because that meets our customer wishes.
Little to add i fully agree was trying to make it simpler to explain/
discuss but your right its not a black vs white issue.
MMbase only has to realize that many new customers who select the
product are willing to accept higher costs for hosting. Java
hosting is much more expensive than php. There are many php cms
implementations which meet customer requirements when the customer
doesn't want to pay for java hosting. This means that MMbase
belongs to the more expensive applications and that customers in
this segment demand more from their application. This also applies
for the templating mechanism in their application.
I find this very interesting its not my task to normally do this so
can you provide some more information on this (or maybe someone else
Jo?), Since this would mean that we should not even try to compete
with php based products since in the end people will go for php/mysql
anyway.
Again your input has been very interesting hope others will join in
soon (monday?) and its abit quiet on the list because of the holidays.
Greetings,
Daniel.
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