Am 18.10.2010 18:38, schrieb Ian Clarke:

> Of course, reinventing the wheel is nothing new for Freenet :-/

Indeed ... but thats not the point of the discussion about Java Script. It's obviously your newest toy you really want to have in the project - I cant imagine why. A UI framework certainly does not need Javascript per se - and its certainly not needed for freenet.
2) What about people who don't have Javascript enabled or use terminal browsers like lynx?

Right now we have maybe 20k concurrent users. Google and other websites use GWT for apps with millions, perhaps tens of millions of users. If Google is prepared to make Javascript a requirement for mainstream web apps that serve millions of users, then we should certainly be comfortable with doing-so for our app that serves thousands.
Yeah and I am sure all those google users are very concerned about their privacy since they all use google, gmail, android, chrome with full phone home functionality ... and so forth giving them all the data they want.

I mean its clear that a software like Freenet should be compared with the biggest datamining company in the world. I mean thats what freenet is all about right?

An argument ad populum is not very convincing - especially not one like that.

Of your other arguments the only real benefit which no other Framwork would offer easily are the Dev-Tools. All the other arguments are not "pro GWT" but pro "use a framework". So its simple - don't stick your head into the sand: search for a better framework which has at least a non-JS fallback.

BTW a redesign is certainly not the most important step...

Apophis
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