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On 12/08/2012 06:05 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Saturday 08 Dec 2012 03:11:28 Steve Dougherty wrote: >> On 12/05/2012 01:55 AM, Robert Hailey wrote: >>> >>> On 2012/12/04 (Dec), at 8:10 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >>> >>>> Am Donnerstag, 1. November 2012, 21:30:35 schrieb Matthew >>>> Toseland: >>>>> - More work on making darknet easy. >>>> >>>> Yes, please! >>>> >>>> How about automatic insert of my noderef as CHK, so I can >>>> just hand a friend an in-freenet-link to connect? >>> >>> So you want a sort of... "open invitation"? Whoever finds the >>> chk can become a darknet peer... unless the operator has put a >>> count-limitation on it, or since disabled it manually (via an >>> open invitations list?). >>> >>> An interesting idea, and not a bad one either, as it would be >>> a necessary first step for the welcome-package idea anyway as >>> the "one_time_token.txt" is effectively a limit-1 >>> open-invitation. >>> >>> It seems like it would remove 50% of the handshake process for >>> those who find it "secure enough" for their purposes, but I >>> think Matthew said something about it not gelling well with >>> darknet-only nodes being "undetectable" (that they would have >>> to respond to an unverified request or something). >> >> Would it be reasonable to have the installer packaged with a seed >> such that the public key of the node installed with it could be >> recognized? This seems like it'd mean knowing the private key >> too, but if someone runs an invitation bundle from someone else, >> they probably trust them anyway, seeing as how they're >> connecting via darknet. Hm. Thoughts? > > Including seednodes for opennet is possible but IMHO pointless, > since they are harvestable even if we don't distribute them > centrally, and since we optimise performance by using as many of > them as possible. Including FOAFs on the other hand is a *big* > gain. > I'm sorry, I was unclear. I meant a PRNG seed so that the link-layer keys would be known, so the node handing out the invite could recognize and accept a connection from the node installed with its bundle. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQw9WlAAoJECLJP19KqmFue5kQAIRLOr78N29+wfQgFvQB6bUs WHwAFPYyMOOvwTRwKyC1MFAIkjObFaEvIYgbS0sKh3YqyHt+lIzU6kQRjWEx+e91 KPj3A9JNgqg/f/DaOoE9+6+JxtAOKLe8KvMM+DEaY0wsUyOir7Frqv8N49l/16g8 HRqp/PWKPruM7mNe80HV1MlMtVzrPSQMMXo1YfKfxTFDkPFX3+pJ52N3s40WnR+r M0krF3Qcqk8aqnwOoyNQ3wNhO0yntO4v/mgo/l+IgP5sPrNwrtpPpj/kpNLAmFdg 0FxOdIqpouIprd5F19NvWDi3lZoLaWicsjBRFrQ7xPelv09GY3LMc9r8M566W6zO W/18kJl2WCKR7bMlmn1WGGP8hj7yIHU1ec33FElElK+634BKtYc7ENP+B1L0cQSh Bo4UsTPmnFpAvFLfPUGuc9exF36YSBsGYaJcvIWKm0dCRRzl3J5wAX7pR3sxxKe+ LuczaP2nJkJwApZ5E8mq5FOONVQjfz3gU0zRsa8ISxfjhlEYKgYw65WK9Ml28guJ 1Apr8YxH42E4vVvFlN/gaeayoLcrrFDO2ZXwh3DWR/AXslTHPhIlzmKhpnaWkUVR rI4fm51Xt7cWjgEbSOwPWUfGCB8MuSxKGI5NIcWmRBNJxZEf2E4pfyrR+8k0zp3F rcGkfT1vFuX1zNQjaOkm =YrQG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
