On Sunday 09 Dec 2012 00:04:53 Steve Dougherty wrote:
> 
> On 12/08/2012 06:05 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > On Saturday 08 Dec 2012 03:11:28 Steve Dougherty wrote:
> >> On 12/05/2012 01:55 AM, Robert Hailey wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 2012/12/04 (Dec), at 8:10 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Am Donnerstag, 1. November 2012, 21:30:35 schrieb Matthew
> >>>> Toseland:
> >>>>> - More work on making darknet easy.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, please!
> >>>>
> >>>> How about automatic insert of my noderef as CHK, so I can
> >>>> just hand a friend an in-freenet-link to connect?
> >>>
> >>> So you want a sort of... "open invitation"? Whoever finds the
> >>> chk can become a darknet peer... unless the operator has put a
> >>> count-limitation on it, or since disabled it manually (via an
> >>> open invitations list?).
> >>>
> >>> An interesting idea, and not a bad one either, as it would be
> >>> a necessary first step for the welcome-package idea anyway as
> >>> the "one_time_token.txt" is effectively a limit-1
> >>> open-invitation.
> >>>
> >>> It seems like it would remove 50% of the handshake process for
> >>> those who find it "secure enough" for their purposes, but I
> >>> think Matthew said something about it not gelling well with
> >>> darknet-only nodes being "undetectable" (that they would have
> >>> to respond to an unverified request or something).
> >>
> >> Would it be reasonable to have the installer packaged with a seed
> >> such that the public key of the node installed with it could be
> >> recognized? This seems like it'd mean knowing the private key
> >> too, but if someone runs an invitation bundle from someone else,
> >> they probably trust them anyway, seeing as how they're
> >> connecting via darknet. Hm. Thoughts?
> >
> > Including seednodes for opennet is possible but IMHO pointless,
> > since they are harvestable even if we don't distribute them
> > centrally, and since we optimise performance by using as many of
> > them as possible. Including FOAFs on the other hand is a *big*
> > gain.
> 
> I'm sorry, I was unclear. I meant a PRNG seed so that the link-layer
> keys would be known, so the node handing out the invite could recognize
> and accept a connection from the node installed with its bundle.

Yes, something like that - "one time cryptographic token".

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