On 16/11/14 16:36, Ian Clarke wrote:
> We're in an interesting situation.  The world finally appears to really
> care about the things that Freenet has been about from the very beginning a
> decade and a half ago (most of the publicity back then viewed Freenet
> through the prism of Napster and copyright infringement).  People finally
> care about anonymity, privacy, government monitoring, etc.  We should be
> able to capitalize on this but it will take work.
And in the meantime every wannabe clone project gets all the funding,
and we don't, because we're old news. Yeah.

You need to look at Arne's work on a funding proposal ("Freenet for
journalists"). IMHO to make a big difference, make some decent progress
towards something we could call 1.0, we need $1M+, i.e. a team of paid
devs for at least a year. As you mentioned earlier, Kickstarter is out -
it takes a lot of design resources up front, we don't have goodies to
give donors, and we're excluded anyway because of being a social network.

http://127.0.0.1:8888/USK@s9sxY2cTJWHKRsTuBTkjrXW4HfzrdUlwFqft1mzV0Gs,2E4DOMYy-~zOdp8-5OQH2IcmLfey0AOIkms-73Mx2tI,AQACAAE/freenet-funding/40/
(Is there an open gateway at the moment???)
> Thoughts?
Well, this summer we've made significant progress, some of which has
been deployed:
- The client layer rewrite. This will be deployed soon and will have a
substantial positive impact on usability for serious users, as well as
solving a number of long term problems like big freesite uploads.
- The link length changes. These are already deployed and have greatly
improved opennet performance, doubling the average data persistence time.
- Xor is on the verge of solving two of the biggest
usability-for-real-users issues with WoT.

I agree that we need a new UI. I don't think I'm the person to do it,
but it sounds like the Winterface project is making progress on this.

Personally I think we should put some significant effort into security;
any tweaks we do around the edges to boost opennet performance can
probably be sabotaged fairly easily, and there are real enemies. That
means 1) making darknet easy, 2) making darknet fast, 3) solving the
Pitch Black attack and 4) implementing tunnels, both on opennet and
darknet. A good tunnel implementation could give us better anonymity
than Tor, at least in theory. There's lots we could do on performance
but little point if we're relying on an easily-sabotaged opennet model.

We have code for transport plugins, and it's very popular among the
community, but it probably needs rewriting and would be a big project...
I'm not convinced it's worthwhile given that it provides no practical
benefit except for a few users with UDP blocked, and no real security
benefit (even with darknet, p2p networks are detectable regardless of
protocol).

Sone needs some problems sorting out, making into an official plugin and
so on. There's lots of stuff we could do to improve performance of chat
apps and so on; IMHO making chat work consistently well over Freenet is
a long-term research project, like search. :|

The existing fred changes, the two main WoT changes (event pushing and
progressive recalculation) and fixing Sone and making it official would
be enough for a reasonably interesting 0.8 IMHO, certainly an
improvement on 0.7.5; a bit better if it includes Winterface. But I have
no idea what the timescale is for Winterface, the WoT work or Sone.

This is IMHO. I've been out of it really for some time; I was fairly
single-minded over summer. You should look at other people's roadmaps.
But it's worth discussing.

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