Am Montag, 30. November 2015, 20:09:04 schrieb Florent Daigniere: > > Could we stop the talk about paying for opennet once and for all — > > and instead start fixing Darknet? > > > > We still have no one-click darknet introduction bundles, and no > > darknet FOAF. As long as I cannot send a friend a zip with a prepared > > Freenet node which connects to me and can route over my darknet > > friends, any work which only benefits opennet shows totally warped > > priorities. > > That has been the official project line for decades: "do opennet stuff > because that's what people use (and think they want) and we can get > funding for"
Yes, I know. But why then did we do the rewrite in 2007 which killed old sites and a lot of momentum? Also what I saw was mostly work done on Opennet and really easy fixes for Darknet ignored. I mean, a core developer¹ delaying the ordering of n2ns by time for years. I’m pretty sure that this alone killed at least one of my darknet connections, if not two. ¹: me. > ... we don't disagree on the fact that it's warped priorities... that took me three re-readings to get the “don’t disagree” right :) > but what you seem to assume is that we can have a hybrid network that's > secure. I don't think so; Current status-quo is definitely not good- > enough in my threat model, does it work for yours? For my personal threat model hybrid works. Whistleblowers definitely need darknet with FOAF. What security properties would you assume for someone who has a darknet connection with FOAF (explicitly: routing over all darknet peers of the darknet peer) when the darknet peer has 5 other darknet friends? Would that suffice for a whistleblower who logs into Freenet 5 times, communicates over Freemail and logs off after less than an hour? (the journalist-whistleblower workflow) > If not, what needs implementing to get it there? For whistleblowers: Darknet invitations, Darknet FOAF, transport plugins (to hide the connections from ISP-level monitoring), WoT with faster bootstrapping (getting the initial IDs). Best wishes, Arne
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