I do think that before we build an opennet, we need to invest some
serious effort in:
- Making it easy to connect to newbie friends. (the darknet-tools list;
  IRC plugins, AIM plugins etc).
- Making it easy to connect to people already on the network that you
  knew but didn't know were on the network. (the above plus voluntary
  local discovery, with lots of warnings to verify their identity!).

And if we do implement opennet, then we must be clear on what the
advantages of darknet connections are, and if necessary add some more
advantages.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 02:16:50AM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 03:01:24PM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
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> > On 27 Jun 2006, at 12:24, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > 
> > >Do we want semi-opennet support? This would be a way to connect, with
> > >mutual advance consent, to peers of our direct peers? (There would be
> > >measures taken to ensure that we don't connect to peers of their  
> > >direct
> > >peers).
> > 
> > Why not implement proper opennet?  Your stated objection was  
> > previously based on something Oskar apparently said, or didn't say,  
> > but he now seems to think we should do it (in fact, I think this was  
> > always his opinion).
> 
> Partly that it hasn't been simulated successfully. Partly the strong
> suspicion that life will be harder on opennet w.r.t. load balancing,
> data migration etc. Partly the political issue that if we build an
> opennet, nobody will use the darknet, unless we make it seriously
> compelling to do so.
> > 
> > I agree that we need to simulate it to ensure that destination  
> > sampling (aka LRU) can co-exist with location swapping, but that  
> > should be a relatively straight-forward simulation, Oskar may even do  
> > it for us :-)
> 
> Maybe. I would be fascinated to see the results.
> > 
> > Ian.
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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