On Nov 28, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Laurent Lunati wrote:

>
> Le 28 nov. 08 à 12:35, Jean-Vincent Drean a écrit :
>
>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Vincent Massol
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 2 steps do not seem excessive to me, it's still gonnna be real  
>>>> quick
>>>> and it
>>>> adapts well to the various use cases we are faced with (insert  
>>>> link,
>>>> insert
>>>> image etc). It has both the benefits from the wizard and the
>>>> treeview. I
>>>> think it is a great middle ground between our various proposals.
>>>
>>> You didn't comment on my proposal to be able to click insert on the
>>> first screen if you don't need any option applied to the image. I
>>> think it's reasonable and saves unnecessary clicks.
>>>
>>
>> See 
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/NewWysiwygEditorWikiExplorer#HMockup-4
>>
>> I'm fine with this solution, Laurent WDYT of this one ?
>>
>> JV.
>
> it's not the right way for me, with a direct insert button common
> usage is :

Exactly my point! This is exactly why I've always thought it was  
better to show the second screen so that the user can see what the  
options are before clicking on insert (that's proposal 3).

The more I think of this and the more I think it's wrong to use a  
wizard to *force* a second optional step for inserting an image  
(especially when in the second screen won't be used at all in most  
cases).

Resizing an image is not an option that people will systematically  
choose (quite the opposite) and moreover a much better way to resize  
an image is to use the mouse and resize the image directly in the text  
as it's done currently with tinyMCE (only problem being with very  
large images spanning more than the viewport). I'd hate to loose that  
feature.

The scenario by Laurent below simply shows that using a dialog box to  
resize an image is wrong. In order to know the correct size you need  
to see it in the page with the rest of the layout so it's way better  
to offer mouse handles to resize it inline IMO.

Thanks
-Vincent

>
>
> 1 - select
> 2 - insert
> 3 - Ho zut
> 4 - edit ?
> 5 - ho... am i on the right box ?
> 6- click on edit (or close the dialogue, in this case delete img and
> reclick on insert image)
> 7 - reselect img
> 8 - ok more options...
> 9 - ha... yes my image is too big
> 10 - change option
> 11 - insert
>
> if you have 2 steps on inserting dialogue always display all step, so
> that user always know where he is
>
> laurent
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