Hi, I'm non-binding +1 for 4) .
I think the 2 most important reasons why I like it better are: * Easy to use: users are guided throughout the process, one action at a time 2 steps do not seem excessive to me, it's still gonnna be real quick and it adapts well to the various use cases we are faced with (insert link, insert image etc). It has both the benefits from the wizard and the treeview. I think it is a great middle ground between our various proposals. * The dialog size is fixed, action buttons are always at the same position on screen => this one is specifically important to me. 480*480 is a good medium ground between a generic, small-footprint dialog box size that can be used for most purposes (from a treeview to a file upload) and it would fit well on an EEEpc 900's screen (which is probably the lowest common denominator in terms of screen resolutions we should be able to support: 1024*600, especially given how ubiquitous small laptops are becoming these days). Having dialog boxes with a consistent look & feel (same location for buttons) is very important since it will make user expectations much easier to manage => the same kind of button always located at the same place will greatly improve usability. Guillaume On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 27, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> Re the image selection: > >> * It would be much much better to see the images before choosing them > >> (the preview comes too late). You cannot choose an image on its name > >> alone that's too hard. > > > > The only solution I see for this is to have a tooltip with a preview > > in the treeview. > > Couldn't we show the images in the tree (as thumbnails)? > > In several wikis/CMS I've seen they use a media browser showing > thumbnails of pictures and this looks a good way to select the picture > to me. If I have to open all nodes to see the pictures below it might > be hard to select the picture I want. It might be better to list all > pictures found in a given space or wiki (still using a live grid so > that performances are not penalized of course). > > Maybe a checkbox to switch from treeview to image browser? > > >> * What is the camera icon doing? Is it just an image? > > > > Yes. > > > >> * How do I enter advanced parameters for images? > > > > This mockup is about the wiki explorer, I've put the example of the > > image insertion but this part is not to be taken as a proposal. > > > >> Apart from this it looks good to me but I still have a small > >> preference for 3 since > >> - as a user I prefer to see all options to understand where I'll find > >> the feature I'm looking for > > > > s/user/power user/ > > Why do you say that? With your argument every user is dumb and would > not be able to use a computer at all. Have you every seen a computer > OS screen when there's only 1 button and wizards to go to the next > step? Come on, look at your screen, and see all the buttons and places > you can click (right now when typing this I can see at least 100 > locations I can click and I'm on a Mac, reputed for being easy to > use). Life is not just a wizard! :) > > I agree we should not make complex screen but there's a fine line > between complex and useful. I even don't disagree with option 4 even > though I don't think it's required (unless we wanted to make it work > on mobile devices for ex but then it's a completely different skin > that we would need and it would be pretty stupid to use a mobile > device design on large screens since you'd loose lots of screen estate). > > Ok back to constructive comments: > > What about 2 buttons on the first screen: > * Insert > * More Options... > > If you click insert you're done and the image is inserted right away. > If you click options... then we have 2 possibilities: 1) it opens a > drawer or 2) you go to the second screen. In the drawer/second screen > you would specify additional stuff like image size, advanced style > parameters, etc. > > It's not as good as option 3 but it's close since you can skip one > step by clicking "Insert" right away. Also "our super dumb users" > would not see the options immediately so they would not run away :) > > WDYT? > > >> - it's one click less > > > > IMHO an extra click is only a problem if the user has to think where > > to click and why to click. > > I agree that 2 or more extra clicks are a problem but only one, with > > the action button always at the very same place, no. > > I agree it's not a big deal. Still I'm unsure why we need 2 screens. > The one argument that seems valid to me is screen estate but then I'm > not sure it wouldn't fit (we need to have it work on 1024x768 and not > lower since all our site is made to work on 1024x768). > > [snip] > > Thanks > -Vincent > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Guillaume Lerouge Product Manager - XWiki Skype ID : wikibc http://blog.xwiki.com/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
