On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:21 PM, Anamaria Stoica wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > To address Caty's feedback on > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration(thanks<http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration%28thanks> > > Caty!): > > > > 1. Should Google Gadgets also be able to add on the side menus? > > (where the > > Panels currently are) > > > > I think users should be able to do this also. > > > > If so, it would make sense to also have a Gadgets macro (not only a > > dashboard macro). But how would it be connected to the dashboard > > macro? Can > > the content of a macro be other macros? Something like: > > {{dashboard}} > > {{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}} > > {{gadget ../}} > > {{gadget ../}} > > {{/dashboard}} > > , where each row is a stack(column) of the dashboard. > > Yes that's very easy to do technically. One simple way is to allow > wiki content inside the dashboard macro. Then it's a one liner to > support it. > > Question: What would the dashboard macro do? Is it just for layout? In > which case I'd rather have a more generic {{layout}} macro that can be > used or not be used at will. Or even use the {{column}} macro that we > need to write in 2.0 syntax. See: > - http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/ColumnMacro > - http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/DisplayPanelLayoutMacro > The dashboard should contain the gadgets on 3 columns, and support drag&drop for them, like here: http://gsoc.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Google+Gadget+and+OpenSocial+Integration/AppDashboard or on iGoogle. Now, it's not clear whether the window of the gadget should be part of the Dashboard or the Gadget's macro. Supporting drag&drop, the windows must be subclasses of isc.Window, placed inside a isc.VStack subclass, which are placed inside a isc.HLayout subclass. (the last 2 obviously being part of the Layout of the Dashboard) (isc.Window, isc.VStack, isc.HLayout are classes in the SmartClient library). But the Gadgets outside of a Dashboard don't need to be placed inside isc.Window's, as they don't need drag&drop. How can the container of a Gadget be chosen depending on where it's placed (into a Dashboard, on a side menu Panel), if the window is not part of the Layout? About DisplayPanelLayoutMacro&Column macros: I think that a kind of DisplayPanelLayoutMacro in combination with a kind of ColumnMacro would work just fine. I say a kind of, because the DisplayPanelLayoutMacro would have to create a isc.HLayout object and the ColumnMacro a isc.VLayout object. But I'd rather use just one simple macro using the combination of the 2 mentioned above called dashboard. > > > > 2. "The thing is that we need to think about the functional > > duplication of > > the Panel Wizard and the new Dashboard." Caty > > > > <http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/AnamariaStoica> > > Yes, we need to think about the interface for (Gadgets&XWiki) Gadgets > > Directory and Panel Wizard. > > > > What would their roles be? Their content? (One would add Google > > Gadgets/Panels to Dashboard macros, the other to side menus...?) > > > > Is one interface enough for Dashboard Gadgets and Panels? If so, how > > would > > it look like? (where to put it, Panel Wizard is in Admin interface) > > > > Also, should the Gadgets Directory support adding gadgets to any > > Dashboard > > macro in any page, or just to personal dashboard? > > I think Gadgets and Panels should be one and the same, unless there's > a difference I don't see. The only difference I can think of is the > source of the content but it's easy to make that generic. > > Another idea is to consider the panel as only the outside shell/box > and inside the panel it should be possible to put wiki syntax, > including a gadget representation. Thus everything would be a panel. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Thanks, > > Anamaria > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Anamaria Stoica <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Ludovic Dubost <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> This should go beyond user profiles. Space home pages but any page > >>> should be able to be dashboard pages. > >>> For these pages we would need a way to make them display as > >>> dashboard > >>> pages by default. > >>> > >>> We should also make it easy to make these pages dashboard pages > >>> when in > >>> the wysiwyg. Like include a "dashboard" macro. > >>> > >>> I view it like that: > >>> > >>> 1/ Open a page in wysiwyg > >>> 2/ Type some text, include a dashboard macro > >>> 3/ Save > >>> > >>> When in view the dashboard macro renders the dashboard settings > >>> saved in > >>> the content field of the dashboard macro or in XWiki objects save > >>> in the > >>> page. > >>> It adds JS tools to allow to move and change your gadgets and panels > >>> used in your dashboard. > >>> > >> > >> Gadgets on the iGoogle panel also have an Edit Settings action on > >> the top > >> right > >> corner of every gadget, which opens a form with settings for that > >> gadget. > >> > >> Question: > >> If one user changes these settings, should they be visible to > >> everyone, or > >> just to the > >> user editing them? (this way different users will see the gadgets > >> with > >> different settings > >> for the same dashboard) > >> > >> On the personal dashboard is obvious that only you get to change > >> them, and > >> maybe view > >> the dashboard, > >> but what about any dashboard added as a macro on a regular page? > >> > >> I think the changes should be visible to everyone with view rights > >> on the > >> page, and > >> the settings editable for everyone with edit rights on the same page. > >> > >> WDYT? > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> With this method we might not need the xpage=dashboard template, > >>> as you > >>> could just have an #if in the XWikiUserSheet which displays the > >>> dashboard based on URL params. > >>> The #if would make a call to the XWiki {{dashboard}} macro > >>> > >>> Ludovic > >>> > >>> Anamaria Stoica a écrit : > >>>> Hi devs, > >>>> > >>>> I'd like to start working on Gadgets Integration. (this is a new > >>> feature) > >>>> > >>>> I've been working on the specs with Guillaume, and you can see the > >>> Design > >>>> page here: > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration > >>>> > >>>> The aim of the gadget integration is to provide XWiki users with a > >>>> dashboard-like page that will display a list of gadgets. These > >>>> gadgets > >>> can > >>>> be either internal gadgets (similar to XWiki panels) or external > >>>> gadgets > >>>> (coming from the Google Gadget repository for instance). Users can > >>> select > >>>> which gadgets to display on their dashboard from a gadget directory > >>> located > >>>> on the wiki. > >>>> > >>>> I've also created a few Mockups here > >>>> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationfor > >>>> the Dashboard, Gadget Windows and Gadgets Directory. > >>>> > >>>> List of features: > >>>> Dashboard > >>>> - Dashboard for each user with drag&drop for Gadget Windows > >>>> - Display both Google Gadgets and XWiki Gadgets (Panels) > >>>> Directory > >>>> - An internal directory with Gadgets in the wiki divided in 3 > >>>> parts: > >>>> * XWiki Gadgets defined in the wiki / in the farm (current > >>> Panels) > >>>> * Google Gadgets selected out of the global Google > >>>> Directory by > >>> wiki > >>>> admins > >>>> * If allowed by wiki admins: full Google Gadgets Directory > >>>> > >>>> I'd like to include all of the above with basic functionalities > >>>> into > >>> 2.2M1. > >>>> > >>>> One thing is not clear at this point >> The relationship between > >>>> XWiki > >>>> Gadgets and current Panels: > >>>> > >>>> They are basically the same thing (same content), but they will > >>>> have > >>>> different containers (drag&drop window with edit settings on > >>>> Dashboard > >>> and > >>>> present containers for the side menu Panels). > >>>> > >>>> Will all Panels make sense as XWiki Gadgets? If no, when a new > >>>> Panel is > >>>> created, how do you know it's meant to be only a side menu Panel > >>>> and not > >>>> also a XWikiGadget? (this applies for current Panels as well) > >>>> > >>>> Also, very important: where should the interface for the Gadgets > >>> Directory > >>>> be placed? Appended to Panels.WebHome or new directory > >>>> Gadgets.WebHome? > >>> In > >>>> my opinion it needs a different interface from the Panel Wizard > >>> Interface. > >>>> The Panel Wizard is in the Wiki Preferences (administration > >>>> space) open > >>> only > >>>> to Admins, but the Directory will have to be available to all users > >>> (even > >>>> browsable by everyone). > >>>> > >>>> An admin interface for picking Google Gadgets from iGoogle > >>>> Directory > >>> and/or > >>>> XWiki Panels for the Gadgets Directory might be needed. > >>>> > >>>> How should I treat the 2 of them (XWiki Gadgets vs side menu > >>>> Panels)? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Anamaria > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
