On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Anamaria Stoica <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Guillaume Lerouge wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Guillaume Lerouge wrote: > > > >>> Hi, > > > >>> > > > >>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Anamaria Stoica < > > > [email protected] > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Hi devs, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I restructured a bit the Design page for Gadgets Integration [0]. > I > > > >>>> introduced 2 new sections called 'Main Elements' and 'Full > > Proposals'. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The 'Main Elements' section describes the general elements which > > would > > > >>>> be needed/affected by the integration like the Dashboard, Gadgets > > > >>>> Directory, Gadget Macros and Panel Wizard, providing several > > > >>>> implementation options for each of them. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The next section 'Full Proposals' describes entire solutions for > > > >>>> Gadgets integration (the full story), by combining implementation > > > >>>> options for each element defined in the 'Main Elements' section. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Right now there are only 2 Proposals: > > > >>>> * Proposal 1 - Gadgets added on Dashboards through Gadgets > > Directory, > > > >>>> and not WYSIWYG Insert Macro Dialog [1] > > > >>>> * Proposal 2 - Multiple Macros - each XWiki&Google Gadget as its > own > > > >> Macro > > > >>>> [2] > > > >>>> , but other may be proposed by mixing other element options in the > > > >>>> 'Main Elements' section or introducing new ones. For example, > > Proposal > > > >>>> 1 could be modified to also use an extended WYSIWYG Insert Macro > > > >>>> dialog for gadgets. > > > >>>> > > > >>> I think an important bit of information that we're missing here is > an > > > >>> evaluation of how long would either way take to implement. I'd be > in > > > >> favor > > > >>> of going for Proposal 2 if the WYSIWYG dialog boxes were easier to > > > >> extend. > > > >>> However I'm afraid this is going to be a daunting task if done > today. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thus for now I'm +1 for Proposal 1 (the downside being that we > > > introduce > > > >>> some duplication between macros and gadgets). > > > >> Hmm, IMO it is exactly the opposite. If gadgets are imported as > macros > > > >> then the WYSIWYG editor doesn't have to know about gadgets and > doesn't > > > >> have to be extended. If we implement a single generic gadget-macro > > then > > > >> it will require special handling from the WYSIWYG editor. > > > >> > > > >> I'm more for unifying the notion of gadget, panel or macro, thus I'm > > > >> more for proposal 2. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ideally that's also what I would go for. I just want to be sure we're > > not > > > > launching ourselves into a daunting initiative. > > > > > > > > > > > Marius, if there's one macro per gadget, how do you create a > dashboard > > > > (dashboard macro + a macro for every gadget) through the WYSIWYG? > > > > > > I see what you mean. So gadgets are supposed to work only inside a > > > dashboard? The idea of importing gadgets as macros was, I think, to be > > > able to use gadgets anywhere. > > > > > > > > > For Proposal 2, Gadgets are macros, and the Dashboard is also a macro. > > Gadgets should > > work anywhere AND inside dashboards, if added that way. You would either > > have (more or less): > > {{dashboard}} {{gadgetName1 .../}} {{gadgetName2 .../}} {{/dashboard}} - > > when inserted inside dashboards > > or directly: > > {{gadgetName1 .../}} - inserted anywhere > > > > The dashboard macro would only group the gadgets, on columns and support > > drag&drop for them. (like a > > more advanced container) > > > > Marius, to see what Guillaume is saying about extending the WYSIWYG > Insert > > Macro Dialog, can > > you look at: ? > > * Insert any Macro-Gadget: > > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationProposal2#HInsertGadgetMacroWYSIWYGDialog > > - here I put a Preview for the Macro-Gadget on the left, while editing > > the macro properties > > and > > * Insert Dashboard Macro: > > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationProposal2#HInsertDashboardMacroWYSIWYGDialog > > - here the preview of the Dashboard displays a mini preview with small > > boxes for where the gadgets would go (but no content rendered), and an > 'Add > > Gadgets' button, which would open yet another 'Insert Macro Dialog' > > > > Another option would be to drop the part with extending the WYSIWYG > editor > > (pretty as it is in the Mockups) and simply insert the Macro-Gadgets like > > it's done now (no preview). Then the user would go in view mode, and edit > > the user preferences for the gadget (from here: > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration#HGoogleGadgetWindow28EditingUserPreferences29 > > ). > > But this should evolve into the proposal above, as I think it's not user > > friendly at all... > > > > Now, my question is how would Inserting Macro-Gadgets inside a Dashboard > > Macro would work in this case (no WYSIWYG extended)? (from the user's > point > > of view) > > > I think the correct option for now is a mix of stuff that was said before: > > - Gadgets are created as macros > - The wiki admin can select a gadget, click on "turn it into a macro" and > the gadget "magically" becomes a XWiki macro > - If the whole Google gadget repository is available for users, it means > that any user can turn a gadget into a XWiki macro > Agree. All of the above make sense > - We rewrite existing panels to use macros to generate their output > Do you mean here to transform all Panels into Macros and to change the content field of all Panels.PanelClass objects to use the corresponding macros (thus keeping also all the Panels)? I don't see the point of Panels if so, they look like generic containers How would the Panel Wizard look like? (see Options 1, 2, 3 for Panel Wizard on Design page http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration#HPanelWizard) Also, Marius, Option 3 tries to open an Insert Macro Dialog box to insert a macro from outside the WYSIWYG (by clicking 'Add Gadget' button in the interface), would that work? (or something similar...). If not, the macros could still be added to the panels (empty containers) through the Macros Directory (Option 1) > - We create a macro repository at .../bin/view/Macros/WebHome > - We add a "Create macro" form in the repository where the user can > choose between: > - Create a wiki macro > - Create a macro from a Google gadget > - Gadgets are thus usable through macros and can be added from the > WYSIWYG > Agree > - The {{dashboard}} macro has the following parameters: "how many boxes > to display?" "personal or public dashboard?" > - When the {{dashboard}} macro is used into a page, each display box > has an "edit" link > - Clicking on that link send the user to a special dialog box where > she selects which macro to use in the box (through the macro > repository and > not through the WYSIWYG) > Additional no of boxes parameter makes the users think of something they shouldn't at this point. The way I think about a dashboard is a place where you add stuff or delete stuff as you please, without thinking/planing in advance about it. If you still have to go to the View action to add gadgets on the dashboard, then the solution with just one 'Add more gadgets>>' button at the top I think is better and sufficient. (see http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationProposal1#HResultafterInsertDashboardMacroWYSIWYGDialog ) Still why is it not possible to add other macros inside the dashboard macro while still in the WYSIWYG editor? > - Since panels are individual documents, choosing which macros to put in > them can be done through the WYSIWYG > See question above about Panels and Panel Wizard > This has all the advantages and few of the problems of various other > implementations: > > - All the data is generated through macros (be it a list of XWiki pages > or a Google World Clock) > - All macros get grouped together in a repository > - Macro creation is easier and centralized > - Panels are only here for display purposes > - {{dashboard}} macro is a specific displayer only > All sound good Anamaria > > WDYT? > > Guillaume > > > > > If we have a dashboard macro containing multiple gadget macros then we > > > hit the same problem as with any other nested macros (e.g. HTML inside > > > velocity). The WYSIWYG editor needs to be improved so that macro > content > > > is edited also in rich text mode (if supported). But this is not going > > > to happen too soon, unless we raise its priority. > > > > > > > > > > > An option is to have the following behavior: as soon as one gadget > > macro > > > is > > > > added to a page, a dashboard is implicitly created. The WYSIWYG > > actually > > > > also becomes a dashboard creator. However I'm not sure we could have > > > gadget > > > > drag & drop reordering right in the WYSIWYG editor, could we? > > > > > > I don't think so. Sounds too complicated. > > > > > > Marius > > > > > > > > > > > Guillaume > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Marius > > > >> > > > >>> Guillaume > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> The mockups page has been divided into 3: > > > >>>> * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - General [3] > > > >>>> * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - Proposal 1 [4] > > > >>>> * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - Proposal 2 [5] > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Feedback and new ideas are very welcome > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thanks! > > > >>>> Anamaria > > > >>>> > > > >>>> [0] - > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration > > > >>>> [1] - > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration#HProposal1GadgetsaddedonDashboardsthroughGadgetsDirectory2CandnotWYSIWYGInsertMacroDialog > > > >>>> [2] - > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration#HProposal2MultipleMacroseachXWiki26GoogleGadgetasitsownMacro > > > >>>> [3] - > > > >>>> > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration > > > >>>> [4] - > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationProposal1 > > > >>>> [5] - > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationProposal1 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Jerome Velociter < > [email protected] > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> On 12/8/09 10:02 AM, Anamaria Stoica wrote: > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Vincent Massol< > > [email protected]> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:21 PM, Anamaria Stoica wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Hi, > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> To address Caty's feedback on > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration(thanks<http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration%28thanks> > > < > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration%28thanks > > > > > > >>>> < > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration%28thanks > > > >>>>>>>> Caty!): > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 1. Should Google Gadgets also be able to add on the side > menus? > > > >>>>>>>> (where the > > > >>>>>>>> Panels currently are) > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> I think users should be able to do this also. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> If so, it would make sense to also have a Gadgets macro (not > > only > > > a > > > >>>>>>>> dashboard macro). But how would it be connected to the > dashboard > > > >>>>>>>> macro? Can > > > >>>>>>>> the content of a macro be other macros? Something like: > > > >>>>>>>> {{dashboard}} > > > >>>>>>>> {{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}} > > > >>>>>>>> {{gadget ../}} > > > >>>>>>>> {{gadget ../}} > > > >>>>>>>> {{/dashboard}} > > > >>>>>>>> , where each row is a stack(column) of the dashboard. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Yes that's very easy to do technically. One simple way is to > > allow > > > >>>>>>> wiki content inside the dashboard macro. Then it's a one liner > to > > > >>>>>>> support it. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Question: What would the dashboard macro do? Is it just for > > layout? > > > >> In > > > >>>>>>> which case I'd rather have a more generic {{layout}} macro that > > can > > > >> be > > > >>>>>>> used or not be used at will. Or even use the {{column}} macro > > that > > > we > > > >>>>>>> need to write in 2.0 syntax. See: > > > >>>>>>> - http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/ColumnMacro > > > >>>>>>> - > > > >> http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/DisplayPanelLayoutMacro > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> The dashboard should contain the gadgets on 3 columns, and > support > > > >>>> drag&drop > > > >>>>>> for them, like here: > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > http://gsoc.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Google+Gadget+and+OpenSocial+Integration/AppDashboard > > > >>>>>> or on iGoogle. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Now, it's not clear whether the window of the gadget should be > > part > > > of > > > >>>> the > > > >>>>>> Dashboard or the Gadget's macro. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Supporting drag&drop, the windows must be subclasses of > > isc.Window, > > > >>>> placed > > > >>>>>> inside a isc.VStack subclass, > > > >>>>>> which are placed inside a isc.HLayout subclass. (the last 2 > > > obviously > > > >>>> being > > > >>>>>> part of the Layout of the Dashboard) > > > >>>>>> (isc.Window, isc.VStack, isc.HLayout are classes in the > > SmartClient > > > >>>>>> library). > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> Question: are we sure we want to implement it with SmartClient? > > Isn't > > > >> it > > > >>>>> overkill ? > > > >>>>>> But the Gadgets outside of a Dashboard don't need to be placed > > > inside > > > >>>>>> isc.Window's, as they don't need drag&drop. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> How can the container of a Gadget be chosen depending on where > > it's > > > >>>> placed > > > >>>>>> (into a Dashboard, on a side menu Panel), > > > >>>>>> if the window is not part of the Layout? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> About DisplayPanelLayoutMacro&Column macros: > > > >>>>>> I think that a kind of DisplayPanelLayoutMacro in combination > with > > a > > > >>>> kind of > > > >>>>>> ColumnMacro would work just fine. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> for the record, I wrote a first draft of a column macro for > syntax > > > 2.0 > > > >>>>> in the contrib sandbox : > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-rendering-macro-column/ > > > >>>>> (it's actually two macro, {{section}} and {{column}} that work > > > >> together, > > > >>>>> you can read it as an example). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Jerome. > > > >>>>>> I say a kind of, because the DisplayPanelLayoutMacro would have > to > > > >>>> create a > > > >>>>>> isc.HLayout object and the ColumnMacro > > > >>>>>> a isc.VLayout object. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> But I'd rather use just one simple macro using the combination > of > > > the > > > >> 2 > > > >>>>>> mentioned above called dashboard. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 2. "The thing is that we need to think about the functional > > > >>>>>>>> duplication of > > > >>>>>>>> the Panel Wizard and the new Dashboard." Caty > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> < > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/AnamariaStoica > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Yes, we need to think about the interface for > (Gadgets&XWiki) > > > >>>> Gadgets > > > >>>>>>>> Directory and Panel Wizard. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> What would their roles be? Their content? (One would add > Google > > > >>>>>>>> Gadgets/Panels to Dashboard macros, the other to side > menus...?) > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Is one interface enough for Dashboard Gadgets and Panels? If > so, > > > how > > > >>>>>>>> would > > > >>>>>>>> it look like? (where to put it, Panel Wizard is in Admin > > > interface) > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Also, should the Gadgets Directory support adding gadgets to > any > > > >>>>>>>> Dashboard > > > >>>>>>>> macro in any page, or just to personal dashboard? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> I think Gadgets and Panels should be one and the same, unless > > > there's > > > >>>>>>> a difference I don't see. The only difference I can think of is > > the > > > >>>>>>> source of the content but it's easy to make that generic. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Another idea is to consider the panel as only the outside > > shell/box > > > >>>>>>> and inside the panel it should be possible to put wiki syntax, > > > >>>>>>> including a gadget representation. Thus everything would be a > > > panel. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks > > > >>>>>>> -Vincent > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>>>>> Anamaria > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Anamaria Stoica< > > > >>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Ludovic Dubost< > > [email protected] > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> This should go beyond user profiles. Space home pages but > any > > > page > > > >>>>>>>>>> should be able to be dashboard pages. > > > >>>>>>>>>> For these pages we would need a way to make them display as > > > >>>>>>>>>> dashboard > > > >>>>>>>>>> pages by default. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> We should also make it easy to make these pages dashboard > > pages > > > >>>>>>>>>> when in > > > >>>>>>>>>> the wysiwyg. Like include a "dashboard" macro. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I view it like that: > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 1/ Open a page in wysiwyg > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2/ Type some text, include a dashboard macro > > > >>>>>>>>>> 3/ Save > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> When in view the dashboard macro renders the dashboard > > settings > > > >>>>>>>>>> saved in > > > >>>>>>>>>> the content field of the dashboard macro or in XWiki objects > > > save > > > >>>>>>>>>> in the > > > >>>>>>>>>> page. > > > >>>>>>>>>> It adds JS tools to allow to move and change your gadgets > and > > > >> panels > > > >>>>>>>>>> used in your dashboard. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Gadgets on the iGoogle panel also have an Edit Settings > action > > on > > > >>>>>>>>> the top > > > >>>>>>>>> right > > > >>>>>>>>> corner of every gadget, which opens a form with settings for > > that > > > >>>>>>>>> gadget. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Question: > > > >>>>>>>>> If one user changes these settings, should they be visible to > > > >>>>>>>>> everyone, or > > > >>>>>>>>> just to the > > > >>>>>>>>> user editing them? (this way different users will see the > > gadgets > > > >>>>>>>>> with > > > >>>>>>>>> different settings > > > >>>>>>>>> for the same dashboard) > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> On the personal dashboard is obvious that only you get to > > change > > > >>>>>>>>> them, and > > > >>>>>>>>> maybe view > > > >>>>>>>>> the dashboard, > > > >>>>>>>>> but what about any dashboard added as a macro on a regular > > page? > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I think the changes should be visible to everyone with view > > > rights > > > >>>>>>>>> on the > > > >>>>>>>>> page, and > > > >>>>>>>>> the settings editable for everyone with edit rights on the > same > > > >> page. > > > >>>>>>>>> WDYT? > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> With this method we might not need the xpage=dashboard > > template, > > > >>>>>>>>>> as you > > > >>>>>>>>>> could just have an #if in the XWikiUserSheet which displays > > the > > > >>>>>>>>>> dashboard based on URL params. > > > >>>>>>>>>> The #if would make a call to the XWiki {{dashboard}} macro > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Ludovic > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Anamaria Stoica a écrit : > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi devs, > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to start working on Gadgets Integration. (this is > a > > > new > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> feature) > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've been working on the specs with Guillaume, and you can > > see > > > >> the > > > >>>>>>>>>> Design > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> page here: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The aim of the gadget integration is to provide XWiki users > > > with > > > >> a > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dashboard-like page that will display a list of gadgets. > > These > > > >>>>>>>>>>> gadgets > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> can > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be either internal gadgets (similar to XWiki panels) or > > > external > > > >>>>>>>>>>> gadgets > > > >>>>>>>>>>> (coming from the Google Gadget repository for instance). > > Users > > > >> can > > > >>>>>>>>>> select > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> which gadgets to display on their dashboard from a gadget > > > >> directory > > > >>>>>>>>>> located > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> on the wiki. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've also created a few Mockups here > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationfor > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the Dashboard, Gadget Windows and Gadgets Directory. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> List of features: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Dashboard > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - Dashboard for each user with drag&drop for Gadget Windows > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - Display both Google Gadgets and XWiki Gadgets (Panels) > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Directory > > > >>>>>>>>>>> - An internal directory with Gadgets in the wiki divided in > 3 > > > >>>>>>>>>>> parts: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> * XWiki Gadgets defined in the wiki / in the farm > > > >> (current > > > >>>>>>>>>> Panels) > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> * Google Gadgets selected out of the global Google > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Directory by > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wiki > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> admins > > > >>>>>>>>>>> * If allowed by wiki admins: full Google Gadgets > > > >> Directory > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to include all of the above with basic > > functionalities > > > >>>>>>>>>>> into > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2.2M1. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> One thing is not clear at this point>> The relationship > > > between > > > >>>>>>>>>>> XWiki > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Gadgets and current Panels: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> They are basically the same thing (same content), but they > > will > > > >>>>>>>>>>> have > > > >>>>>>>>>>> different containers (drag&drop window with edit settings > on > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Dashboard > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> present containers for the side menu Panels). > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Will all Panels make sense as XWiki Gadgets? If no, when a > > new > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Panel is > > > >>>>>>>>>>> created, how do you know it's meant to be only a side menu > > > Panel > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and not > > > >>>>>>>>>>> also a XWikiGadget? (this applies for current Panels as > well) > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Also, very important: where should the interface for the > > > Gadgets > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Directory > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be placed? Appended to Panels.WebHome or new directory > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Gadgets.WebHome? > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> In > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> my opinion it needs a different interface from the Panel > > Wizard > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Interface. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The Panel Wizard is in the Wiki Preferences (administration > > > >>>>>>>>>>> space) open > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> only > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to Admins, but the Directory will have to be available to > all > > > >> users > > > >>>>>>>>>> (even > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> browsable by everyone). > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> An admin interface for picking Google Gadgets from iGoogle > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Directory > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> and/or > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> XWiki Panels for the Gadgets Directory might be needed. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> How should I treat the 2 of them (XWiki Gadgets vs side > menu > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Panels)? > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Anamaria > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>>> devs mailing list > > > >>>>>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>> devs mailing list > > > >>>>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>> devs mailing list > > > >>>>> [email protected] > > > >>>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>> devs mailing list > > > >>>> [email protected] > > > >>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> devs mailing list > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > -- > Guillaume Lerouge > Product Manager - XWiki SAS > Skype: wikibc > Twitter: glerouge > http://guillaumelerouge.com/ > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
