Hi, On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Anamaria Stoica <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi devs, > > I restructured a bit the Design page for Gadgets Integration [0]. I > introduced 2 new sections called 'Main Elements' and 'Full Proposals'. > > The 'Main Elements' section describes the general elements which would > be needed/affected by the integration like the Dashboard, Gadgets > Directory, Gadget Macros and Panel Wizard, providing several > implementation options for each of them. > > The next section 'Full Proposals' describes entire solutions for > Gadgets integration (the full story), by combining implementation > options for each element defined in the 'Main Elements' section. > > Right now there are only 2 Proposals: > * Proposal 1 - Gadgets added on Dashboards through Gadgets Directory, > and not WYSIWYG Insert Macro Dialog [1] > * Proposal 2 - Multiple Macros - each XWiki&Google Gadget as its own Macro > [2] > , but other may be proposed by mixing other element options in the > 'Main Elements' section or introducing new ones. For example, Proposal > 1 could be modified to also use an extended WYSIWYG Insert Macro > dialog for gadgets. > I think an important bit of information that we're missing here is an evaluation of how long would either way take to implement. I'd be in favor of going for Proposal 2 if the WYSIWYG dialog boxes were easier to extend. However I'm afraid this is going to be a daunting task if done today. Thus for now I'm +1 for Proposal 1 (the downside being that we introduce some duplication between macros and gadgets). Guillaume > The mockups page has been divided into 3: > * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - General [3] > * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - Proposal 1 [4] > * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - Proposal 2 [5] > > Feedback and new ideas are very welcome > > Thanks! > Anamaria > > [0] - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration > [1] - > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration#HProposal1GadgetsaddedonDashboardsthroughGadgetsDirectory2CandnotWYSIWYGInsertMacroDialog > [2] - > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration#HProposal2MultipleMacroseachXWiki26GoogleGadgetasitsownMacro > [3] - > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration > [4] - > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationProposal1 > [5] - > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationProposal1 > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On 12/8/09 10:02 AM, Anamaria Stoica wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Vincent Massol<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:21 PM, Anamaria Stoica wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> To address Caty's feedback on > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration(thanks > < > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration%28thanks > > > >>> > >>>> Caty!): > >>>> > >>>> 1. Should Google Gadgets also be able to add on the side menus? > >>>> (where the > >>>> Panels currently are) > >>>> > >>>> I think users should be able to do this also. > >>>> > >>>> If so, it would make sense to also have a Gadgets macro (not only a > >>>> dashboard macro). But how would it be connected to the dashboard > >>>> macro? Can > >>>> the content of a macro be other macros? Something like: > >>>> {{dashboard}} > >>>> {{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}} > >>>> {{gadget ../}} > >>>> {{gadget ../}} > >>>> {{/dashboard}} > >>>> , where each row is a stack(column) of the dashboard. > >>>> > >>> Yes that's very easy to do technically. One simple way is to allow > >>> wiki content inside the dashboard macro. Then it's a one liner to > >>> support it. > >>> > >>> Question: What would the dashboard macro do? Is it just for layout? In > >>> which case I'd rather have a more generic {{layout}} macro that can be > >>> used or not be used at will. Or even use the {{column}} macro that we > >>> need to write in 2.0 syntax. See: > >>> - http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/ColumnMacro > >>> - http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/DisplayPanelLayoutMacro > >>> > >>> > >> The dashboard should contain the gadgets on 3 columns, and support > drag&drop > >> for them, like here: > >> > http://gsoc.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Google+Gadget+and+OpenSocial+Integration/AppDashboard > >> or on iGoogle. > >> > >> Now, it's not clear whether the window of the gadget should be part of > the > >> Dashboard or the Gadget's macro. > >> > >> Supporting drag&drop, the windows must be subclasses of isc.Window, > placed > >> inside a isc.VStack subclass, > >> which are placed inside a isc.HLayout subclass. (the last 2 obviously > being > >> part of the Layout of the Dashboard) > >> (isc.Window, isc.VStack, isc.HLayout are classes in the SmartClient > >> library). > >> > > > > Question: are we sure we want to implement it with SmartClient? Isn't it > > overkill ? > >> But the Gadgets outside of a Dashboard don't need to be placed inside > >> isc.Window's, as they don't need drag&drop. > >> > >> How can the container of a Gadget be chosen depending on where it's > placed > >> (into a Dashboard, on a side menu Panel), > >> if the window is not part of the Layout? > >> > >> About DisplayPanelLayoutMacro&Column macros: > >> I think that a kind of DisplayPanelLayoutMacro in combination with a > kind of > >> ColumnMacro would work just fine. > >> > > > > for the record, I wrote a first draft of a column macro for syntax 2.0 > > in the contrib sandbox : > > > > > http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-rendering-macro-column/ > > > > (it's actually two macro, {{section}} and {{column}} that work together, > > you can read it as an example). > > > > Jerome. > >> I say a kind of, because the DisplayPanelLayoutMacro would have to > create a > >> isc.HLayout object and the ColumnMacro > >> a isc.VLayout object. > >> > >> But I'd rather use just one simple macro using the combination of the 2 > >> mentioned above called dashboard. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>> 2. "The thing is that we need to think about the functional > >>>> duplication of > >>>> the Panel Wizard and the new Dashboard." Caty > >>>> > >>>> <http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/AnamariaStoica> > >>>> Yes, we need to think about the interface for (Gadgets&XWiki) > Gadgets > >>>> Directory and Panel Wizard. > >>>> > >>>> What would their roles be? Their content? (One would add Google > >>>> Gadgets/Panels to Dashboard macros, the other to side menus...?) > >>>> > >>>> Is one interface enough for Dashboard Gadgets and Panels? If so, how > >>>> would > >>>> it look like? (where to put it, Panel Wizard is in Admin interface) > >>>> > >>>> Also, should the Gadgets Directory support adding gadgets to any > >>>> Dashboard > >>>> macro in any page, or just to personal dashboard? > >>>> > >>> I think Gadgets and Panels should be one and the same, unless there's > >>> a difference I don't see. The only difference I can think of is the > >>> source of the content but it's easy to make that generic. > >>> > >>> Another idea is to consider the panel as only the outside shell/box > >>> and inside the panel it should be possible to put wiki syntax, > >>> including a gadget representation. Thus everything would be a panel. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> -Vincent > >>> > >>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Anamaria > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Anamaria Stoica< > [email protected] > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Ludovic Dubost<[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> This should go beyond user profiles. Space home pages but any page > >>>>>> should be able to be dashboard pages. > >>>>>> For these pages we would need a way to make them display as > >>>>>> dashboard > >>>>>> pages by default. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We should also make it easy to make these pages dashboard pages > >>>>>> when in > >>>>>> the wysiwyg. Like include a "dashboard" macro. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I view it like that: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1/ Open a page in wysiwyg > >>>>>> 2/ Type some text, include a dashboard macro > >>>>>> 3/ Save > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When in view the dashboard macro renders the dashboard settings > >>>>>> saved in > >>>>>> the content field of the dashboard macro or in XWiki objects save > >>>>>> in the > >>>>>> page. > >>>>>> It adds JS tools to allow to move and change your gadgets and panels > >>>>>> used in your dashboard. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Gadgets on the iGoogle panel also have an Edit Settings action on > >>>>> the top > >>>>> right > >>>>> corner of every gadget, which opens a form with settings for that > >>>>> gadget. > >>>>> > >>>>> Question: > >>>>> If one user changes these settings, should they be visible to > >>>>> everyone, or > >>>>> just to the > >>>>> user editing them? (this way different users will see the gadgets > >>>>> with > >>>>> different settings > >>>>> for the same dashboard) > >>>>> > >>>>> On the personal dashboard is obvious that only you get to change > >>>>> them, and > >>>>> maybe view > >>>>> the dashboard, > >>>>> but what about any dashboard added as a macro on a regular page? > >>>>> > >>>>> I think the changes should be visible to everyone with view rights > >>>>> on the > >>>>> page, and > >>>>> the settings editable for everyone with edit rights on the same page. > >>>>> > >>>>> WDYT? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> With this method we might not need the xpage=dashboard template, > >>>>>> as you > >>>>>> could just have an #if in the XWikiUserSheet which displays the > >>>>>> dashboard based on URL params. > >>>>>> The #if would make a call to the XWiki {{dashboard}} macro > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ludovic > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Anamaria Stoica a écrit : > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi devs, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'd like to start working on Gadgets Integration. (this is a new > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> feature) > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I've been working on the specs with Guillaume, and you can see the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Design > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> page here: > >>>>>>> > >>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration > >>> > >>>>>>> The aim of the gadget integration is to provide XWiki users with a > >>>>>>> dashboard-like page that will display a list of gadgets. These > >>>>>>> gadgets > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> can > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> be either internal gadgets (similar to XWiki panels) or external > >>>>>>> gadgets > >>>>>>> (coming from the Google Gadget repository for instance). Users can > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> select > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> which gadgets to display on their dashboard from a gadget directory > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> located > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> on the wiki. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I've also created a few Mockups here > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationfor > >>> > >>>>>>> the Dashboard, Gadget Windows and Gadgets Directory. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> List of features: > >>>>>>> Dashboard > >>>>>>> - Dashboard for each user with drag&drop for Gadget Windows > >>>>>>> - Display both Google Gadgets and XWiki Gadgets (Panels) > >>>>>>> Directory > >>>>>>> - An internal directory with Gadgets in the wiki divided in 3 > >>>>>>> parts: > >>>>>>> * XWiki Gadgets defined in the wiki / in the farm (current > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Panels) > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> * Google Gadgets selected out of the global Google > >>>>>>> Directory by > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> wiki > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> admins > >>>>>>> * If allowed by wiki admins: full Google Gadgets Directory > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'd like to include all of the above with basic functionalities > >>>>>>> into > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2.2M1. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> One thing is not clear at this point>> The relationship between > >>>>>>> XWiki > >>>>>>> Gadgets and current Panels: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> They are basically the same thing (same content), but they will > >>>>>>> have > >>>>>>> different containers (drag&drop window with edit settings on > >>>>>>> Dashboard > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> present containers for the side menu Panels). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Will all Panels make sense as XWiki Gadgets? If no, when a new > >>>>>>> Panel is > >>>>>>> created, how do you know it's meant to be only a side menu Panel > >>>>>>> and not > >>>>>>> also a XWikiGadget? (this applies for current Panels as well) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Also, very important: where should the interface for the Gadgets > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Directory > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> be placed? Appended to Panels.WebHome or new directory > >>>>>>> Gadgets.WebHome? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> In > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> my opinion it needs a different interface from the Panel Wizard > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Interface. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Panel Wizard is in the Wiki Preferences (administration > >>>>>>> space) open > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> only > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> to Admins, but the Directory will have to be available to all users > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> (even > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> browsable by everyone). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> An admin interface for picking Google Gadgets from iGoogle > >>>>>>> Directory > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> and/or > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> XWiki Panels for the Gadgets Directory might be needed. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How should I treat the 2 of them (XWiki Gadgets vs side menu > >>>>>>> Panels)? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> Anamaria > >>>>>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> devs mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devs mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Guillaume Lerouge Product Manager - XWiki SAS Skype: wikibc Twitter: glerouge http://guillaumelerouge.com/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
