On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 01:34, Thibaut Camberlin <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 12/07/2010 03:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 18:13, Sergiu Dumitriu<[email protected]>
>  wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 12/02/2010 10:21 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
> > >>>> <[email protected]>   wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Caty,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 11/30/2010 10:02 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Please provide feedback for this User Status proposal:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> >
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusProposal
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You used a rich text area in your proposal. Are you planning to use
> > the
> > >>>>> WYSIWYG editor for entering the status message?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If we are going to develop a completion mechanism for references, it
> > >>>> should be developed in the WYSIWYG in my opinion, and probably be
> > >>>> available as a standard feature of it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Actually it should also be available in the wiki editor IMO (that
> would
> > >> be soooo great :)).
> > >>>
> > >>> The syntax proposed by Caty in the screenshots can be wiki syntax.
> It's
> > >> very easy to add a "user" prefix for links that would be used like
> this:
> > >>>
> > >>> [[user:<username>]]
> > >>
> > >>
> > > @Jerome: Sure Jerome, wording is the easiest part.
> > >
> > > @Vincent: It was discussed in the past mails that the Activity will
> > > integrate page, users, application events so that's why is placed here.
> > > If User Status is disabled, the Activity Macro will remain unchanged,
> > > otherwise they combine.
> > >
> >
> > > @Marius, @Vincent, @Sergiu: we could have this auto-complete feature
> > inside
> > > Wiki, WYSIWYG. The syntax proposed was inspired by the WYSIWYG and the
> > macro
> > > editing done by Marius. The implementation problems | difficulties
> needs
> > to
> > > be discussed with Marius, because I don't know much about WYSIWYG
> > > limitations.
> >
> > Do we need a rich text area for the user status?
> >
> > The WYSIWYG editor can be easily configured to display only the rich
> > text area and its JavaScript API exposes most of the features that are
> > normally available on the tool bar or the menu bar. Integrating the
> > WYSIWYG editor with the user status feature shouldn't pose any problems.
> > And image/link/macro autocomplete is definitely something that I'd like
> > to implement for the WYSIWYG editor.
> >
>


For:


> I am +1 to remove the "Changed status". It does not bring enough value and
> adds noise to the status box.
>

The "Changed status" message  is there because we will have the Page, Users,
Application type separation.

With http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-589 we will separate the User
actions from the Page ones. So User actions will include: adding a new user,
removing the user (from Wiki, to a Group), changing the status, changing the
avatar, etc (depends on the level we want to go)

This is the reason the message is displayed + the consistency with the other
elements displayed.


> Two remarks concerning autocomplete feature:
> * IMO syntax "[[user:" is too complex for a normal user. Autocomplete
> should
> be triggered with pattern without the "[[" meaning only "user:"
>

The words "[[user:" will be automatically put when the user presses the
bottom-right icons. So beginner users don't need to learn any syntax, they
just need to press the syntax completion buttons.

>From a syntax point of view "[[user:" is more correct than "user:" because
links ('[[') offer navigation in the status. If the user will write just
"user:" the autocomplete will also trigger, but the final Status message
will don't have the link.

Thanks,
Caty



> * If WYSIWYG already has the needed API, this is great. My only concern is
> that using the WYSIWYG does make loading time longer. Currently, loading a
> page in WYSIWYG mode takes a significant amount of time (that is also why
> most of us prefer wiki mode under some circumstances) that would not be
> acceptable for a home page.
>
> Thanks,
> Thibaut
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marius
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Caty
> > >
> > >
> > >> +1 for adding support for user: links, since this would make it easier
> > >> in the future to have user accounts completely outside the XWiki
> > >> platform (like external WebID or OpenID accounts).
> > >>
> > >>> We already support:
> > >>> - document: [[doc:<docname>]]
> > >>> - attachments: [[attach:<attachmentname>]]
> > >>> - urls: [[url:<url>]]
> > >>> and more
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> -Vincent
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It could then be used for the user statuses, with a stripped down
> > >>>> version of the WYSIWYG without any buttons and menus.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jerome.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Marius
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Other references:
> > >>>>>> * Proposal Code:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>
> >
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusPrototype
> > >>>>>> * Mail [Investigation] User Statuses:
> > >>>>>> http://markmail.org/thread/65j5pc2ymmntujt3
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>> Caty
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Sergiu Dumitriu
> > >> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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