On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 15:32, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Thibaut,
> >
> > On 12/15/2010 01:34 AM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea<
> >> [email protected]>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 12/07/2010 03:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 18:13, Sergiu Dumitriu<[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 12/02/2010 10:21 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
> >>>>>>> <[email protected]>    wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi Caty,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 11/30/2010 10:02 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Please provide feedback for this User Status proposal:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusProposal
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You used a rich text area in your proposal. Are you planning to
> use
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>> WYSIWYG editor for entering the status message?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If we are going to develop a completion mechanism for references,
> it
> >>>>>>> should be developed in the WYSIWYG in my opinion, and probably be
> >>>>>>> available as a standard feature of it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Actually it should also be available in the wiki editor IMO (that
> would
> >>>>> be soooo great :)).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The syntax proposed by Caty in the screenshots can be wiki syntax.
> It's
> >>>>> very easy to add a "user" prefix for links that would be used like
> this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [[user:<username>]]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> @Jerome: Sure Jerome, wording is the easiest part.
> >>>>
> >>>> @Vincent: It was discussed in the past mails that the Activity will
> >>>> integrate page, users, application events so that's why is placed
> here.
> >>>> If User Status is disabled, the Activity Macro will remain unchanged,
> >>>> otherwise they combine.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> @Marius, @Vincent, @Sergiu: we could have this auto-complete feature
> >>> inside
> >>>> Wiki, WYSIWYG. The syntax proposed was inspired by the WYSIWYG and the
> >>> macro
> >>>> editing done by Marius. The implementation problems | difficulties
> needs
> >>> to
> >>>> be discussed with Marius, because I don't know much about WYSIWYG
> >>>> limitations.
> >>>
> >>> Do we need a rich text area for the user status?
> >>>
> >>> The WYSIWYG editor can be easily configured to display only the rich
> >>> text area and its JavaScript API exposes most of the features that are
> >>> normally available on the tool bar or the menu bar. Integrating the
> >>> WYSIWYG editor with the user status feature shouldn't pose any
> problems.
> >>> And image/link/macro autocomplete is definitely something that I'd like
> >>> to implement for the WYSIWYG editor.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Two remarks concerning autocomplete feature:
> >> * IMO syntax "[[user:" is too complex for a normal user. Autocomplete
> should
> >> be triggered with pattern without the "[[" meaning only "user:"
> >
> >> * If WYSIWYG already has the needed API, this is great. My only concern
> is
> >> that using the WYSIWYG does make loading time longer. Currently, loading
> a
> >> page in WYSIWYG mode takes a significant amount of time (that is also
> why
> >> most of us prefer wiki mode under some circumstances) that would not be
> >> acceptable for a home page.
> >
> > This is true. Note that I'm not necessarily for using the WYSIWYG
> > editor, that's why I asked if we really need a rich text area for the
> > status. On the other hand, the WYSIWYG editor code is not the only one
> > that slows down the edit page. In my tests (
> > http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2010-October/020308.html ) the
> > editor alone loaded even in 1.3s . SmartClient and some other JavaScript
> > extensions (some which are not event used in edit mode) add a
> > significant amount of time. We need to improve the page loading speed.
>
> Getting rid of smartclient would be a first good step towards this.
>
> We need for that to finish and push the work done on a new explorer :
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/SpaceTree
>

I think this will be integrated when someone will start working on the
Selective Export feature. And this is planned for the XE3.0.

Thanks,
Caty


>
> Jerome.
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marius
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Thibaut
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Marius
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Caty
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1 for adding support for user: links, since this would make it
> easier
> >>>>> in the future to have user accounts completely outside the XWiki
> >>>>> platform (like external WebID or OpenID accounts).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> We already support:
> >>>>>> - document: [[doc:<docname>]]
> >>>>>> - attachments: [[attach:<attachmentname>]]
> >>>>>> - urls: [[url:<url>]]
> >>>>>> and more
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>> -Vincent
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It could then be used for the user statuses, with a stripped down
> >>>>>>> version of the WYSIWYG without any buttons and menus.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jerome.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Marius
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Other references:
> >>>>>>>>> * Proposal Code:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusPrototype
> >>>>>>>>> * Mail [Investigation] User Statuses:
> >>>>>>>>> http://markmail.org/thread/65j5pc2ymmntujt3
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> Caty
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Sergiu Dumitriu
> >>>>> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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