On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Thibaut,
>
> On 12/15/2010 01:34 AM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea<
>> [email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/07/2010 03:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 18:13, Sergiu Dumitriu<[email protected]>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/02/2010 10:21 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>    wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Caty,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/30/2010 10:02 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please provide feedback for this User Status proposal:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusProposal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You used a rich text area in your proposal. Are you planning to use
>>> the
>>>>>>>> WYSIWYG editor for entering the status message?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we are going to develop a completion mechanism for references, it
>>>>>>> should be developed in the WYSIWYG in my opinion, and probably be
>>>>>>> available as a standard feature of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually it should also be available in the wiki editor IMO (that would
>>>>> be soooo great :)).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The syntax proposed by Caty in the screenshots can be wiki syntax. It's
>>>>> very easy to add a "user" prefix for links that would be used like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [[user:<username>]]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> @Jerome: Sure Jerome, wording is the easiest part.
>>>>
>>>> @Vincent: It was discussed in the past mails that the Activity will
>>>> integrate page, users, application events so that's why is placed here.
>>>> If User Status is disabled, the Activity Macro will remain unchanged,
>>>> otherwise they combine.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> @Marius, @Vincent, @Sergiu: we could have this auto-complete feature
>>> inside
>>>> Wiki, WYSIWYG. The syntax proposed was inspired by the WYSIWYG and the
>>> macro
>>>> editing done by Marius. The implementation problems | difficulties needs
>>> to
>>>> be discussed with Marius, because I don't know much about WYSIWYG
>>>> limitations.
>>>
>>> Do we need a rich text area for the user status?
>>>
>>> The WYSIWYG editor can be easily configured to display only the rich
>>> text area and its JavaScript API exposes most of the features that are
>>> normally available on the tool bar or the menu bar. Integrating the
>>> WYSIWYG editor with the user status feature shouldn't pose any problems.
>>> And image/link/macro autocomplete is definitely something that I'd like
>>> to implement for the WYSIWYG editor.
>>>
>>
>> Two remarks concerning autocomplete feature:
>> * IMO syntax "[[user:" is too complex for a normal user. Autocomplete should
>> be triggered with pattern without the "[[" meaning only "user:"
>
>> * If WYSIWYG already has the needed API, this is great. My only concern is
>> that using the WYSIWYG does make loading time longer. Currently, loading a
>> page in WYSIWYG mode takes a significant amount of time (that is also why
>> most of us prefer wiki mode under some circumstances) that would not be
>> acceptable for a home page.
>
> This is true. Note that I'm not necessarily for using the WYSIWYG
> editor, that's why I asked if we really need a rich text area for the
> status. On the other hand, the WYSIWYG editor code is not the only one
> that slows down the edit page. In my tests (
> http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2010-October/020308.html ) the
> editor alone loaded even in 1.3s . SmartClient and some other JavaScript
> extensions (some which are not event used in edit mode) add a
> significant amount of time. We need to improve the page loading speed.

Getting rid of smartclient would be a first good step towards this.

We need for that to finish and push the work done on a new explorer :
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/SpaceTree

Jerome.

>
> Thanks,
> Marius
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Thibaut
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Marius
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Caty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +1 for adding support for user: links, since this would make it easier
>>>>> in the future to have user accounts completely outside the XWiki
>>>>> platform (like external WebID or OpenID accounts).
>>>>>
>>>>>> We already support:
>>>>>> - document: [[doc:<docname>]]
>>>>>> - attachments: [[attach:<attachmentname>]]
>>>>>> - urls: [[url:<url>]]
>>>>>> and more
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It could then be used for the user statuses, with a stripped down
>>>>>>> version of the WYSIWYG without any buttons and menus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jerome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Other references:
>>>>>>>>> * Proposal Code:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusPrototype
>>>>>>>>> * Mail [Investigation] User Statuses:
>>>>>>>>> http://markmail.org/thread/65j5pc2ymmntujt3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Caty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sergiu Dumitriu
>>>>> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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