On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 15:32, Jerome Velociter <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi Thibaut,
>> >
>> > On 12/15/2010 01:34 AM, Thibaut Camberlin wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea<
>> >> [email protected]>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 12/07/2010 03:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 18:13, Sergiu Dumitriu<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 12/02/2010 10:21 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
>> >>>>>>> <[email protected]>    wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Hi Caty,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 11/30/2010 10:02 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Please provide feedback for this User Status proposal:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusProposal
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> You used a rich text area in your proposal. Are you planning to
>> use
>> >>> the
>> >>>>>>>> WYSIWYG editor for entering the status message?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> If we are going to develop a completion mechanism for references,
>> it
>> >>>>>>> should be developed in the WYSIWYG in my opinion, and probably be
>> >>>>>>> available as a standard feature of it.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Actually it should also be available in the wiki editor IMO (that
>> would
>> >>>>> be soooo great :)).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The syntax proposed by Caty in the screenshots can be wiki syntax.
>> It's
>> >>>>> very easy to add a "user" prefix for links that would be used like
>> this:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [[user:<username>]]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> @Jerome: Sure Jerome, wording is the easiest part.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> @Vincent: It was discussed in the past mails that the Activity will
>> >>>> integrate page, users, application events so that's why is placed
>> here.
>> >>>> If User Status is disabled, the Activity Macro will remain unchanged,
>> >>>> otherwise they combine.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> @Marius, @Vincent, @Sergiu: we could have this auto-complete feature
>> >>> inside
>> >>>> Wiki, WYSIWYG. The syntax proposed was inspired by the WYSIWYG and the
>> >>> macro
>> >>>> editing done by Marius. The implementation problems | difficulties
>> needs
>> >>> to
>> >>>> be discussed with Marius, because I don't know much about WYSIWYG
>> >>>> limitations.
>> >>>
>> >>> Do we need a rich text area for the user status?
>> >>>
>> >>> The WYSIWYG editor can be easily configured to display only the rich
>> >>> text area and its JavaScript API exposes most of the features that are
>> >>> normally available on the tool bar or the menu bar. Integrating the
>> >>> WYSIWYG editor with the user status feature shouldn't pose any
>> problems.
>> >>> And image/link/macro autocomplete is definitely something that I'd like
>> >>> to implement for the WYSIWYG editor.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Two remarks concerning autocomplete feature:
>> >> * IMO syntax "[[user:" is too complex for a normal user. Autocomplete
>> should
>> >> be triggered with pattern without the "[[" meaning only "user:"
>> >
>> >> * If WYSIWYG already has the needed API, this is great. My only concern
>> is
>> >> that using the WYSIWYG does make loading time longer. Currently, loading
>> a
>> >> page in WYSIWYG mode takes a significant amount of time (that is also
>> why
>> >> most of us prefer wiki mode under some circumstances) that would not be
>> >> acceptable for a home page.
>> >
>> > This is true. Note that I'm not necessarily for using the WYSIWYG
>> > editor, that's why I asked if we really need a rich text area for the
>> > status. On the other hand, the WYSIWYG editor code is not the only one
>> > that slows down the edit page. In my tests (
>> > http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2010-October/020308.html ) the
>> > editor alone loaded even in 1.3s . SmartClient and some other JavaScript
>> > extensions (some which are not event used in edit mode) add a
>> > significant amount of time. We need to improve the page loading speed.
>>
>> Getting rid of smartclient would be a first good step towards this.
>>
>> We need for that to finish and push the work done on a new explorer :
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/SpaceTree
>>
>
> I think this will be integrated when someone will start working on the
> Selective Export feature. And this is planned for the XE3.0.

Right. So timing should match with user statuses.

Jerome.

>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
>
>>
>> Jerome.
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Marius
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Thibaut
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Marius
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Caty
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> +1 for adding support for user: links, since this would make it
>> easier
>> >>>>> in the future to have user accounts completely outside the XWiki
>> >>>>> platform (like external WebID or OpenID accounts).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> We already support:
>> >>>>>> - document: [[doc:<docname>]]
>> >>>>>> - attachments: [[attach:<attachmentname>]]
>> >>>>>> - urls: [[url:<url>]]
>> >>>>>> and more
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>> -Vincent
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> It could then be used for the user statuses, with a stripped down
>> >>>>>>> version of the WYSIWYG without any buttons and menus.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Jerome.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>> Marius
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Other references:
>> >>>>>>>>> * Proposal Code:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusPrototype
>> >>>>>>>>> * Mail [Investigation] User Statuses:
>> >>>>>>>>> http://markmail.org/thread/65j5pc2ymmntujt3
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>> Caty
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Sergiu Dumitriu
>> >>>>> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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